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travelcamper
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Apr 11, 2015

Double towing

We are researching best way to tow a Honda Goldwing trike behind a fifth wheel and be legal in all states. Would like to hear from anyone with experience and advice on this subject.

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  • fj12ryder's avatar
    fj12ryder
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    Apr 14, 2015
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    I will have to admit that the new toyhaulers are much nicer than a lot of them when we first started looking at 5th wheels/toyhaulers about 10 years ago. About all we could find then were toyhaulers that looked like you just hose them out. Not much in the way of nice looking interiors. Things have definitely changed, for the better I might add.
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    sayoung
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    Apr 14, 2015
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    fj12ryder wrote:
    The post I was replying to made a blanket statement: "just upgrade to a big toyhualer." I was making note of the fact that "it ain't necessarily so". :)

    Excuse my phraseology.I should have said change from as regular fifth wheel rv to a toy hauler style fifthwheel.
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    fj12ryder
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    Apr 13, 2015
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    The post I was replying to made a blanket statement: "just upgrade to a big toyhualer." I was making note of the fact that "it ain't necessarily so". :)
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    Mile_High
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    Apr 13, 2015
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    fj12ryder wrote:
    sayoung wrote:
    Winged One wrote:
    travelcamper wrote:
    We are researching best way to tow a Honda Goldwing trike behind a fifth wheel and be legal in all states. Would like to hear from anyone with experience and advice on this subject.


    Only way you can be legal in all States is to get a Toyhauler.


    Just my thought if I ever started needing a motorcycle or small car with us,just upgrade to a big toyhualer.I also thought about a HDT with a ramp between cab & hitch.
    Well, moving from a 5th wheel to a toyhauler isn't necessarily an "upgrade". The 5th wheel before our present toyhauler was much nicer inside than our toyhauler: bigger bathroom and shower, nicer kitchen area, just nicer overall. But the toyhauler carries the bikes better so we sacrificed a bit to do that. But no way is our toyhauler an upgrade from our previous 5th wheel.

    That may be in your case - but there are a lot of different 5 ers and a lot of different toy haulers. For some it may be an upgrade.
  • fj12ryder's avatar
    fj12ryder
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    Apr 13, 2015
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    sayoung wrote:
    Winged One wrote:
    travelcamper wrote:
    We are researching best way to tow a Honda Goldwing trike behind a fifth wheel and be legal in all states. Would like to hear from anyone with experience and advice on this subject.


    Only way you can be legal in all States is to get a Toyhauler.


    Just my thought if I ever started needing a motorcycle or small car with us,just upgrade to a big toyhualer.I also thought about a HDT with a ramp between cab & hitch.
    Well, moving from a 5th wheel to a toyhauler isn't necessarily an "upgrade". The 5th wheel before our present toyhauler was much nicer inside than our toyhauler: bigger bathroom and shower, nicer kitchen area, just nicer overall. But the toyhauler carries the bikes better so we sacrificed a bit to do that. But no way is our toyhauler an upgrade from our previous 5th wheel.
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    sayoung
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    Winged One wrote:
    travelcamper wrote:
    We are researching best way to tow a Honda Goldwing trike behind a fifth wheel and be legal in all states. Would like to hear from anyone with experience and advice on this subject.


    Only way you can be legal in all States is to get a Toyhauler.


    Just my thought if I ever started needing a motorcycle or small car with us,just upgrade to a big toyhualer.I also thought about a HDT with a ramp between cab & hitch.
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    Mile_High
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    Apr 13, 2015
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    Just a couple of bewares for both:

    The swivel trailers can really add to the tail swing! I watched a Cougar with an ATV on a swivel trailer struggle to get out of a fuel station onto the road.

    A standard trailer on too short of a tongue can make for a bad vacation as well. The wide swing on these 5th wheels can put that rear trailer at a tight swing pretty fast and it may meet the rear clip on the 5er. Check the turning angles and consider its not always level.
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    Bionic_Man
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    Apr 13, 2015
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    GPG52! wrote:
    On the topic of "getting away with it"....I wonder how the insurance companies would look at a claim in a case where you were not legal on the road. I suspect this would be grounds to reject a claim and possibly cancel your policy completely. Food for thought... I'm not an insurance expert. GPG


    They would look at it the same way as if you were doing anything else illlegal - like driving too fast, following too close, not using turn signals, DUI, etc. They would pay the claim.
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    GPG52_
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    On the topic of "getting away with it"....I wonder how the insurance companies would look at a claim in a case where you were not legal on the road. I suspect this would be grounds to reject a claim and possibly cancel your policy completely. Food for thought... I'm not an insurance expert. GPG
  • C-Bears's avatar
    C-Bears
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    Apr 13, 2015
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    I would never consider double-towing as RVer's like to refer to it. But I ran into another camper last year that was traveling with a fiver and Harley trike, not a toy hauler. He had a light weight aluminum trailer for the trike and a hitch on the trike. He could actually tow the aluminum trailer with the trike if he got stopped.

    Something like that could be the answer for you if worried about certain states. If you get stopped and they force you to unhook, just have the DW drive your rig and you hook up your trike to the trike trailer and away you go until you get out of that state. Or at least get down the road 50 miles or so.

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fj12ryder wrote:
The post I was replying to made a blanket statement: \"just upgrade to a big toyhualer.\" I was making note of the fact that \"it ain't necessarily so\". :)

Excuse my phraseology.I should have said change from as regular fifth wheel rv to a toy hauler style fifthwheel.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-04-13T18:13:13.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-04-13T18:13:13.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":458},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:1711277/message:1711299","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"317","rawBody":"
fj12ryder wrote:
The post I was replying to made a blanket statement: \"just upgrade to a big toyhualer.\" I was making note of the fact that \"it ain't necessarily so\". :)

Excuse my phraseology.I should have said change from as regular fifth wheel rv to a toy hauler style fifthwheel.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1711299_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1711298":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1711298","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1711298":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:21985"},"id":"message:1711298","revisionNum":1,"uid":1711298,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1711277"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1711277"},"subject":"Re: Double towing","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1711298"},"body":"The post I was replying to made a blanket statement: \"just upgrade to a big toyhualer.\" I was making note of the fact that \"it ain't necessarily so\". :)","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"152","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-04-13T11:51:41.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-04-13T11:51:41.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":458},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:1711277/message:1711298","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"152","rawBody":"The post I was replying to made a blanket statement: \"just upgrade to a big toyhualer.\" I was making note of the fact that \"it ain't necessarily so\". :)","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1711298_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:340":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:340","uid":340,"login":"Mile_High","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2008-02-05T20:06:29.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-8.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:340"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1711297":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1711297","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1711297":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:340"},"id":"message:1711297","revisionNum":1,"uid":1711297,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1711277"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1711277"},"subject":"Re: Double towing","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1711297"},"body":"
fj12ryder wrote:
sayoung wrote:
Winged One wrote:
travelcamper wrote:
We are researching best way to tow a Honda Goldwing trike behind a fifth wheel and be legal in all states. Would like to hear from anyone with experience and advice on this subject.


Only way you can be legal in all States is to get a Toyhauler.


Just my thought if I ever started needing a motorcycle or small car with us,just upgrade to a big toyhualer.I also thought about a HDT with a ramp between cab & hitch.
Well, moving from a 5th wheel to a toyhauler isn't necessarily an \"upgrade\". The 5th wheel before our present toyhauler was much nicer inside than our toyhauler: bigger bathroom and shower, nicer kitchen area, just nicer overall. But the toyhauler carries the bikes better so we sacrificed a bit to do that. But no way is our toyhauler an upgrade from our previous 5th wheel.

That may be in your case - but there are a lot of different 5 ers and a lot of different toy haulers. For some it may be an upgrade.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-04-13T10:10:27.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-04-13T10:10:27.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":457},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:1711277/message:1711297","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1144","rawBody":"
fj12ryder wrote:
sayoung wrote:
Winged One wrote:
travelcamper wrote:
We are researching best way to tow a Honda Goldwing trike behind a fifth wheel and be legal in all states. Would like to hear from anyone with experience and advice on this subject.


Only way you can be legal in all States is to get a Toyhauler.


Just my thought if I ever started needing a motorcycle or small car with us,just upgrade to a big toyhualer.I also thought about a HDT with a ramp between cab & hitch.
Well, moving from a 5th wheel to a toyhauler isn't necessarily an \"upgrade\". The 5th wheel before our present toyhauler was much nicer inside than our toyhauler: bigger bathroom and shower, nicer kitchen area, just nicer overall. But the toyhauler carries the bikes better so we sacrificed a bit to do that. But no way is our toyhauler an upgrade from our previous 5th wheel.

That may be in your case - but there are a lot of different 5 ers and a lot of different toy haulers. For some it may be an upgrade.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1711297_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1711296":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1711296","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1711296":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:21985"},"id":"message:1711296","revisionNum":1,"uid":1711296,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1711277"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1711277"},"subject":"Re: Double towing","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1711296"},"body":"
sayoung wrote:
Winged One wrote:
travelcamper wrote:
We are researching best way to tow a Honda Goldwing trike behind a fifth wheel and be legal in all states. Would like to hear from anyone with experience and advice on this subject.


Only way you can be legal in all States is to get a Toyhauler.


Just my thought if I ever started needing a motorcycle or small car with us,just upgrade to a big toyhualer.I also thought about a HDT with a ramp between cab & hitch.
Well, moving from a 5th wheel to a toyhauler isn't necessarily an \"upgrade\". The 5th wheel before our present toyhauler was much nicer inside than our toyhauler: bigger bathroom and shower, nicer kitchen area, just nicer overall. But the toyhauler carries the bikes better so we sacrificed a bit to do that. But no way is our toyhauler an upgrade from our previous 5th wheel.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-04-13T10:02:58.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-04-13T10:02:58.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":458},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:1711277/message:1711296","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"958","rawBody":"
sayoung wrote:
Winged One wrote:
travelcamper wrote:
We are researching best way to tow a Honda Goldwing trike behind a fifth wheel and be legal in all states. Would like to hear from anyone with experience and advice on this subject.


Only way you can be legal in all States is to get a Toyhauler.


Just my thought if I ever started needing a motorcycle or small car with us,just upgrade to a big toyhualer.I also thought about a HDT with a ramp between cab & hitch.
Well, moving from a 5th wheel to a toyhauler isn't necessarily an \"upgrade\". The 5th wheel before our present toyhauler was much nicer inside than our toyhauler: bigger bathroom and shower, nicer kitchen area, just nicer overall. But the toyhauler carries the bikes better so we sacrificed a bit to do that. But no way is our toyhauler an upgrade from our previous 5th wheel.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1711296_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1711295":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1711295","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1711295":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:412"},"id":"message:1711295","revisionNum":1,"uid":1711295,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1711277"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1711277"},"subject":"Re: Double towing","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1711295"},"body":"
Winged One wrote:
travelcamper wrote:
We are researching best way to tow a Honda Goldwing trike behind a fifth wheel and be legal in all states. Would like to hear from anyone with experience and advice on this subject.


Only way you can be legal in all States is to get a Toyhauler.


Just my thought if I ever started needing a motorcycle or small car with us,just upgrade to a big toyhualer.I also thought about a HDT with a ramp between cab & hitch.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-04-13T08:17:41.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-04-13T08:17:41.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":458},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:1711277/message:1711295","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"538","rawBody":"
Winged One wrote:
travelcamper wrote:
We are researching best way to tow a Honda Goldwing trike behind a fifth wheel and be legal in all states. Would like to hear from anyone with experience and advice on this subject.


Only way you can be legal in all States is to get a Toyhauler.


Just my thought if I ever started needing a motorcycle or small car with us,just upgrade to a big toyhualer.I also thought about a HDT with a ramp between cab & hitch.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1711295_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1711294":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1711294","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1711294":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:340"},"id":"message:1711294","revisionNum":1,"uid":1711294,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1711277"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1711277"},"subject":"Re: Double towing","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1711294"},"body":"Just a couple of bewares for both:

The swivel trailers can really add to the tail swing! I watched a Cougar with an ATV on a swivel trailer struggle to get out of a fuel station onto the road.

A standard trailer on too short of a tongue can make for a bad vacation as well. The wide swing on these 5th wheels can put that rear trailer at a tight swing pretty fast and it may meet the rear clip on the 5er. Check the turning angles and consider its not always level.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-04-13T07:42:16.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-04-13T07:42:16.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":458},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:1711277/message:1711294","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"491","rawBody":"Just a couple of bewares for both:

The swivel trailers can really add to the tail swing! I watched a Cougar with an ATV on a swivel trailer struggle to get out of a fuel station onto the road.

A standard trailer on too short of a tongue can make for a bad vacation as well. The wide swing on these 5th wheels can put that rear trailer at a tight swing pretty fast and it may meet the rear clip on the 5er. Check the turning angles and consider its not always level.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1711294_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:52110":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:52110","uid":52110,"login":"Bionic_Man","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2009-04-03T12:04:16.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-7.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:52110"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1711293":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1711293","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1711293":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:52110"},"id":"message:1711293","revisionNum":1,"uid":1711293,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1711277"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1711277"},"subject":"Re: Double towing","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1711293"},"body":"
GPG52! wrote:
On the topic of \"getting away with it\"....I wonder how the insurance companies would look at a claim in a case where you were not legal on the road. I suspect this would be grounds to reject a claim and possibly cancel your policy completely. Food for thought... I'm not an insurance expert. GPG


They would look at it the same way as if you were doing anything else illlegal - like driving too fast, following too close, not using turn signals, DUI, etc. They would pay the claim.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-04-13T06:40:07.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-04-13T06:40:07.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":457},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:1711277/message:1711293","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"540","rawBody":"
GPG52! wrote:
On the topic of \"getting away with it\"....I wonder how the insurance companies would look at a claim in a case where you were not legal on the road. I suspect this would be grounds to reject a claim and possibly cancel your policy completely. Food for thought... I'm not an insurance expert. GPG


They would look at it the same way as if you were doing anything else illlegal - like driving too fast, following too close, not using turn signals, DUI, etc. They would pay the claim.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1711293_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:197781":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:197781","uid":197781,"login":"GPG52_","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2011-04-22T10:37:04.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-5.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:41"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:197781"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1711292":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1711292","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1711292":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:197781"},"id":"message:1711292","revisionNum":1,"uid":1711292,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1711277"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1711277"},"subject":"Re: Double towing","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1711292"},"body":"On the topic of \"getting away with it\"....I wonder how the insurance companies would look at a claim in a case where you were not legal on the road. 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But I ran into another camper last year that was traveling with a fiver and Harley trike, not a toy hauler. He had a light weight aluminum trailer for the trike and a hitch on the trike. He could actually tow the aluminum trailer with the trike if he got stopped.

Something like that could be the answer for you if worried about certain states. If you get stopped and they force you to unhook, just have the DW drive your rig and you hook up your trike to the trike trailer and away you go until you get out of that state. Or at least get down the road 50 miles or so.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-04-13T04:42:23.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-04-13T04:42:23.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":457},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:1711277/message:1711291","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"652","rawBody":"I would never consider double-towing as RVer's like to refer to it. But I ran into another camper last year that was traveling with a fiver and Harley trike, not a toy hauler. He had a light weight aluminum trailer for the trike and a hitch on the trike. He could actually tow the aluminum trailer with the trike if he got stopped.

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