Dual pane windows.....add weight? Reduced CCC?

[ACZL]

How much weight do dual pane windows add to a 5er over single pane? Seems to me that if they add quite a bit of weight that reduces your CCC.

[3oaks]

Lantley wrote:

Dtank wrote:
Check the weight of the air conditioner/s on your roof.

Can you do without 'em?..:h

Wow! - Just think of the weight savings!..:C

Like AC, dual pane -is- a "NO BRAINer" - :S - don't leave home without 'em...:W


:C

Dual panes are only beneficial if you full time or at least 3/4 time.
Otherwise you don't even use your RV enough to make a difference.
If your not full timing or paying your own utilities the dual panes will not produce an energy savings rebate like you get from windows in your home.
Dual panes are a pricey item that generally will not pay for themselves through reduced energy cost.
The construction of the dual panes is questionable. There is minimal thermal break or vacuum between the panes. I also do not believe they use low E glass.
RV'ers are generally searching for moderate environments where dual panes will have less of an impact than vs. being in extreme conditions
Dual panes do reduce the outside noise and create a quieter interior. However in order for the windows to be worthwhile I need them to provide more than just silence. I need them to save me tangible energy dollars which in most cases they do not.

My A/C is clearly beneficial on a hot day. Both of them can run all day long and it does not cost me a penny more. I'll surely accept the weight of the units.
Dual panes may reduce my CCC by 300# and reduce my wallet by $1200.00 without providing any real quantifiable benefit.
In the end I passed on the dual panes when ordering my unit and I have no regrets

If I were to only consider cost efficiency and payback, I would never purchase an RV. :R

For me, dual pane windows are the only way to go, even for us part-timers. 😉

[Cummins12V98]

Me Again wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
1/8" glass is 1.64 lbs per sq foot. If adding that to a RV breaks the carrying capacity a different RV should be looked at.

A lot of people on my old Cardinal club had seals leak. After warranty that could get expensive. I spent a lot of money replacing windows in our stick built. Milgard is down to 5 year warranty. Chris

Milgard has replaced several on my 20 year home. Nice to have lifetime warranty.

I replaced a couple on last MS. Actually was not too expensive as they sold at their cost.

I would never be without insulated windows.

[Ivylog]

O M G, if you are worrying about the weight of dual pain windows, the CCC is so small I would not want the unit to begin with.

[Me_Again]

Cummins12V98 wrote:
1/8" glass is 1.64 lbs per sq foot. If adding that to a RV breaks the carrying capacity a different RV should be looked at.

A lot of people on my old Cardinal club had seals leak. After warranty that could get expensive. I spent a lot of money replacing windows in our stick built. Milgard is down to 5 year warranty. Chris

[Cummins12V98]

1/8" glass is 1.64 lbs per sq foot. If adding that to a RV breaks the carrying capacity a different RV should be looked at.

[Lantley]

Dtank wrote:
Check the weight of the air conditioner/s on your roof.

Can you do without 'em?..:h

Wow! - Just think of the weight savings!..:C

Like AC, dual pane -is- a "NO BRAINer" - :S - don't leave home without 'em...:W


:C

Dual panes are only beneficial if you full time or at least 3/4 time.
Otherwise you don't even use your RV enough to make a difference.
If your not full timing or paying your own utilities the dual panes will not produce an energy savings rebate like you get from windows in your home.
Dual panes are a pricey item that generally will not pay for themselves through reduced energy cost.
The construction of the dual panes is questionable. There is minimal thermal break or vacuum between the panes. I also do not believe they use low E glass.
RV'ers are generally searching for moderate environments where dual panes will have less of an impact than vs. being in extreme conditions
Dual panes do reduce the outside noise and create a quieter interior. However in order for the windows to be worthwhile I need them to provide more than just silence. I need them to save me tangible energy dollars which in most cases they do not.

My A/C is clearly beneficial on a hot day. Both of them can run all day long and it does not cost me a penny more. I'll surely accept the weight of the units.
Dual panes may reduce my CCC by 300# and reduce my wallet by $1200.00 without providing any real quantifiable benefit.
In the end I passed on the dual panes when ordering my unit and I have no regrets

[FLY_4_FUN]

I was told that for our 35 ft rig, the dual pane windows would add 300 pounds of weight...thus subtracting it from our ccc.

Daryll

[Dtank]

Check the weight of the air conditioner/s on your roof.

Can you do without 'em?..:h

Wow! - Just think of the weight savings!..:C

Like AC, dual pane -is- a "NO BRAINer" - :S - don't leave home without 'em...:W


:C

[Trackrig]

When deciding on which items to haul around, I'd take the dual pane windows every time over some other junk. I also don't think I'd buy a unit that was that close on the weight.

Bill

[3oaks]

Yes they will add extra weight but benefits (summer/winter) are worth it

I agree. We wouldn't purchases a trailer without them. 😉

[Me_Again]

Yes that is an issue. Our new 2017 Bighorn 3575el has a 3K CCC. The larger Bighorn's have a lot less CCC, 2K or slightly less. I see similar things with some of the other mid level trailers that have 7K axles. Example the Alpine 3660FL has only 1880 CCC, Cardinals are low on larger ones.

We are in Arizona for the winter and were loaded pretty much to our limits coming down. If we had a trailer with only 2K CCC we would be way over weight. Our trailer has a yellow placard in the entry door jam the list CCC as it left the factory just like newer pickup trucks. Chris

[CWSWine]

We were told at Hershey by a Manufacture rep that they weight between 400 and 600 lbs extra and adds about one R factor.

[jnharley]

Dual pane windows are a must for us. They keep the condensation off the inside of the windows when the temp drops and one has to use a heat source and help with noise abatement. However, if you only camp in warm weather, you may not want them.

[Old-Biscuit]

Yes they will add extra weight but benefits (summer/winter) are worth it

Besides....if dual pane windows weight is an issue then you need bigger truck

And unless Full Timing CCC shouldn't be that big of an issue.






Then again
When we FTd I didn't use up all of our CCC (close) but I could open any cabinet/drawer/compartment door and SEE everything without having to DIG

I've seen 'weekenders' pull in and start unloading and like a circus clown car the stuff just keeps coming out and coming out as if no end in sight :B