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Jasdms54
Explorer
Explorer
I am ready to purchase a fifth wheel. The one I'm really looking at is 15,500 gvwr. I'm also purchasing a ram 2500. But do I need a diesel or gas. I want to travel states. Mostly west. What are the pro and cons ? For right now, it is part time, but eventually this will be full time. Hopefully about 4 years. Thank you
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Campinfan
Explorer III
Explorer III
I had a F250 V=10 gasser. Now I have an F350 diesel....no going back to gas for me. Not that I recommend this but before a 10 hr drive and 500 miles was stressful. At Christmas, I drove over 900 miles in 19 hours and the stress was gone. Towed through mountains too.
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2016 F 350 FX4 4WD,Lariat, 6.7 Diesel
41' 2018 Sandpiper 369 SAQB
Lovely wife and three children

kzspree320
Explorer
Explorer
I own a 12K lb fiver and pull it with a Ram 6.4 with 4.10 gasser. It does pretty good at pulling 12K. That having been said, at 15.5K lbs I would no doubt get a 3500/350 diesel.

BarneyS
Explorer III
Explorer III
4x4ord wrote:
Diesels are expensive to purchase, expensive to run (crummy fuel economy) and very expensive to repair in the event you ever have a problem (which will most likely be with the emission system components). I'd buy a diesel.

"expensive to run (crummy fuel economy)"????
Not in my experience. Fuel costs/gallon is usually a bit more but that is all. The increase in MPG usually more than makes up for the difference in cost/gallon. The rest of your statement I agree with.
Barney
2004 Sunnybrook Titan 30FKS TT
Hensley "Arrow" 1400# hitch (Sold)
Not towing now.
Former tow vehicles were 2016 Ram 2500 CTD, 2002 Ford F250, 7.3 PSD, 1997 Ram 2500 5.9 gas engine

4x4ord
Explorer III
Explorer III
Diesels are expensive to purchase, expensive to run (crummy fuel economy) and very expensive to repair in the event you ever have a problem (which will most likely be with the emission system components). I'd buy a diesel.
2023 F350 SRW Platinum short box 4x4.
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2008 Citation Platinum XL 34.5

SLE
Explorer
Explorer
To me this completely depends on what your planning to do, how often, and how comfortable you are towing larger trailers. I've had two campers that have had GVWRs of 15,500 and 15,750 respectively that I've towed with an F250 gasser. Neither have bothered me much, matter of fact the last trip was into a 20 mph corning wind and it handled surprisingly well however I think I could actually see the gas gauge moving. Now with this said, my trips are within 2 hours of home and the camper is normally setup on a seasonal lake site so it's truly only a few trips a year and I can usually pick my day to run it down. If I were towing further distance, more often, or in mountainous terrain I would definitely have a 1 ton class SRW Diesel. If the driving conditions included crossing several states and actually doing some cross country touring, it'd be dually. food for thought.

dfletch
Explorer
Explorer
I guess you see the trend to go with a 3500. After I picked out the 5th wheel we wanted (16k GVW) the salesman told me a 2500 would do just fine. Well I checked the actual cargo capacity of the various 3/4 ton trucks (actual cargo weight as listed on the drivers door) and found that after adding my pin weight, DW, and hitch I was at max cargo weight for a 3/4 ton. Now I still had some things I would like to put I the bed when camping so I went with a 3500. I chose deisel for the torque, gas mileage, and stronger drivetrain. Also with the exhaust brake less wear on the braking system. I went big and got a 3500HD Duramax 4X4 Crewcab longbed dully. It also a daily driver and we love it.
David & Teresa
2017 Cedar Creek Silverback 37 MBH
2017 Silverado 3500HD Duramax 4X4 Crewcab longbed dully

TxGearhead
Explorer II
Explorer II
My Montana is 12,500 pounds Gross Vehicle Weight Rating. Usually towing it at around 12,000#. That is as heavy as I want to go with single rear wheel.
I pulled a smaller 5th with a gasser, never again. If you are wanting to tow in the mountains you will want the torque and the exhaust brake of the diesel. Even the strong west Texas winds would turn me off the gasser.
Get the Ram 3500 dually, Cummins diesel, the Aisin transmission and tow safely and comfortably.
2018 Ram 3500 CC LB DRW 4X4 Cummins Aisin Laramie Pearl White
2018 Landmark Oshkosh
2008 Bigfoot 25C9.4
2014 NauticStar 21 ShallowBay 150HP Yamaha
2016 GoDevil 18X44 35HP Surface Drive

mattmountz94
Explorer
Explorer
I just recently got a 15 Ram 3500 SWB SRW and pull my 14k loaded fifth wheel with no issue. You can def tell it is back there though. I wouldn't want to try with a 2500 as my 3500 really drops when that beast is hooked up. I also have a leveling kit and running 35's. Also with the 3500 you can upgrade to the Aisin trans.

Me_Again
Explorer II
Explorer II
The newest generation of SRW 350/3500's will handle it, a 250/2500 will come up short on the factory numbers. Do it right 350/3500 diesel and your choice of SRW or DRW. Chris
2021 F150 2.7 Ecoboost - Summer Home 2017 Bighorn 3575el. Can Am Spyder RT-L Chrome, Kawasaki KRX1000. Retired and enjoying it! RIP DW 07-05-2021

MarkTwain
Explorer
Explorer
azdryheat wrote:
With diesel I added an extra tank in the truck bed. Can't do that with gas. I've got a 1,000 mile range and choose when and where (without the trailer) to fill up.


X1, I added a 65 gal. diesel auxiliary tank that fit right in the same place my original tank fit. Had the Transfer Flow tank installed 2 days after I bought my truck:) Gives you greater flexibility and the opportunity to pick fuel stations with the best price on diesel.

MarkTwain
Explorer
Explorer
azdryheat wrote:
For towing through any mountains or hills I'd recommend diesel. Gassers just don't have the umpf.

X1 and on mountains Diesels run cooler.

gbopp
Explorer
Explorer
dave17352 wrote:
Also in my opinion ask all the questions you would like. If people don't want to comment they can just go to the next post.

X2. Well said dave17352.

ScottG
Nomad
Nomad
15K isn't even close to me. While there are some 2500 that will do it on paper, there's no way I would go anything less than a dually diesel for a load like that.

azdryheat
Explorer
Explorer
With diesel I added an extra tank in the truck bed. Can't do that with gas. I've got a 1,000 mile range and choose when and where (without the trailer) to fill up.
2013 Chevy 3500HD CC dually
2014 Voltage 3600 toy hauler
2019 RZR 1000XP TRE

thirtydaZe
Nomad
Nomad
I drive a ram 3500 srw 6.7 mostly as a daily driver and love it.

It legitimately tows like a beast, and although exactly the same truck as my 2500 has so much more payload for the money.

If you're getting a big fw, it's essentially easier to be on the road and fill up where semis do. In fact, where does one even fill up with a gasser, and still be able to maneuver around a station?

What fw are you considering? Im on my 3rd season with a 42'er, i couldnt imagine fueling with th passenger traffic.

Anyhow, with ram, you'll be deiving and pulling with Cummins, so you're covered in any unforeseen circumstance.

Seriously though, get the 3500.
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