Guess I won't get a toy hauler

[is_it_friday_ye]

We currently have a 2009 Montana with these specs. It's listed at 10,575. We've been talking about a new toyhauler around the same length but I don't want to go much heavier though it looks like many people do. Here's my weigh ticket


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GVWR on my truck is 10,100 and payload is 2,966. Given, when I weighed yesterday, there was about a half tank of water, grill, and all the other stuff that stays in the trailer like dishes, etc...

I like the Grand Design but some of them have a dry weight of 13,500 lbs. Is everyone that I see towing with a truck like mine, a SRW 3500 diesel, that much overweight? I do have airbags and want disc brakes on any future trailer we buy.

[jlud]

You could look at TT versions...we have a Keystone carbon 33. Has many similar features for a lot less money and you could pull it with ease. It doesn't feel like most TT, has a good interior height but does only have a 10 foot garage.

I ran into a buddy from work that bought a TT bunkhouse two months ago and his wife already wants him to trade for a TH.

[joebedford]

My '04 Ram was just fine towing my previous hauler at 14,500 scaled. My current rig is 19,000 (no liquids) and the Ram just couldn't hack it.

[rgstarnes]

I have a Grand Design Solitude, and in order to take it off the lot, they had Tampa Spring put a 1000# extra leaf on the F250 SRW Crew Cab Lariat truck and re-certify it to 11000, and they also re-certified the Pin weight as well.
The 5'er weighted in at 14140, pin weigh of 3120, and total GVWR 11, 020 #. The total gross weigh of both was 22,100#
I added air bags to help keep the porpoising to a minimum.
I also put all terrain tires on it to get the extra weight rating of the tires (3680 each).
Just finished a 11,000 mile trip out west, and had no problems.

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is it friday yet? wrote:

Is everyone that I see towing with a truck like mine, a SRW 3500 diesel, that much overweight?

This depends on the year of the the truck. Current Ram SRW's have a much higher payload than yours as do the other brands. A current SRW Ram can have a GVWR up to 12300#.

[boogie_4wheel]

is it friday yet? wrote:
Is everyone that I see towing with a truck like mine, a SRW 3500 diesel, that much overweight?

17's rated at 3195ea gets you 6390 legal on the rear axle. The 'other guys' are either overloaded, or have a higher capacity tire than you or I. There is a 3450lb tire (Nitto if I remember correctly) that will get you a little more capacity. I similar 18" tire will get you around 3650lb capacity.

[N-Trouble]

Its pretty well known that an equivalent size toyhauler is going to be heavier than a non-toyhauler model. The frames have to be engineered to hold additional payload. Then factor in loading of toys (reason you buy a hauler..) and your going to be even heavier yet. To stay around the same weight as your current setup you will have to downsize on the TH. No free lunch here...

[Old-Biscuit]

With a truck GVWR of 10,100 you will be limited to a FW/TH GVWR of 14K

I have same GVWR and tow a 14K FW (13,870# Scaled)
It puts me over trucks GVWR and right at Rear Tire Max Load Rating just under Trucks RAWR.

Pin weight is 2900# (FW fully loaded)

YES folks are towing way overweight........either out of ignorance OR just don't care

[is_it_friday_ye]

[is_it_friday_ye]

For some reason, I can't post a photo from Photobucket like I did in the past. Anyway, here's what I was trying to post:

steer axle 4,680 lbs
drive axle 6,060
trailer axle 9,820

gross weight 20,560