Heartland 5th Wheels

[brunella]

Looking at heartland big horn & & big country 5th wheels. Any pros cons
Thanks

[goducks10]

Searching_Ut wrote:

ACZL wrote:
We switched from Cedar Creek Silverback to a '18 Big Country. Sure it has a couple bugs as do most, but we are very happy with it. Not a light unit by any means, but she tows as good if not better than our old '06 CC did. I could care less about a rear cap or not. It's cosmetic and IMO the rear end of our BC looks just fine to me. Seems to be very well built, but as always, some things could have been done differently. HL customer service has been top notch. Can't say that for local dealers.

A plus about not getting a rear cap is that you probably have insulation in the rear end. With the Bighorn, they don't put any insulation in the front or rear caps unless you get the Yeti package.

The Heartland web site says R21 front and rear caps.

Do you have some data or pics to back that up? I just find that hard to believe. Even the cheapest units made have some insulation in the front and rear caps.

[B_O__Plenty]

Searching_Ut wrote:

ACZL wrote:
We switched from Cedar Creek Silverback to a '18 Big Country. Sure it has a couple bugs as do most, but we are very happy with it. Not a light unit by any means, but she tows as good if not better than our old '06 CC did. I could care less about a rear cap or not. It's cosmetic and IMO the rear end of our BC looks just fine to me. Seems to be very well built, but as always, some things could have been done differently. HL customer service has been top notch. Can't say that for local dealers.

A plus about not getting a rear cap is that you probably have insulation in the rear end. With the Bighorn, they don't put any insulation in the front or rear caps unless you get the Yeti package.

Not true. My 2011 Big Country had insulation in the rear cap. Pop out one of the tail lights and look. The Yetti package adds a layer of that thin silver over rated "insulation" over the other stuff. Incidently that thin silver stuff was standard on my Cedar Creek as well as the tank heaters.

B.O.

[Searching_Ut]

ACZL wrote:
We switched from Cedar Creek Silverback to a '18 Big Country. Sure it has a couple bugs as do most, but we are very happy with it. Not a light unit by any means, but she tows as good if not better than our old '06 CC did. I could care less about a rear cap or not. It's cosmetic and IMO the rear end of our BC looks just fine to me. Seems to be very well built, but as always, some things could have been done differently. HL customer service has been top notch. Can't say that for local dealers.

A plus about not getting a rear cap is that you probably have insulation in the rear end. With the Bighorn, they don't put any insulation in the front or rear caps unless you get the Yeti package.

[ACZL]

We switched from Cedar Creek Silverback to a '18 Big Country. Sure it has a couple bugs as do most, but we are very happy with it. Not a light unit by any means, but she tows as good if not better than our old '06 CC did. I could care less about a rear cap or not. It's cosmetic and IMO the rear end of our BC looks just fine to me. Seems to be very well built, but as always, some things could have been done differently. HL customer service has been top notch. Can't say that for local dealers.

[avvidclif1]

justme wrote:

ReneeG wrote:
One of the things to note about the Heartland Bighorn is that is guaranteed for full time use.

The Army claims their tents are for full time use also. So what does that mean in the RV industry other than a marketing ploy to suck in more people.

That means the warranty is still valid if you full-time. Some brands void it for full time use.

[Dan50]

Good question.

[Ron3rd]

justme wrote:
Some heartland owners seem to be brand loyalists. I don't think that brand is above average to justify loyalty and therefor that loyalty may be based on protecting their decision or ego. My take is that Heartland brand is average.

Just curious, and I have no dog in the fight, but do you own a Heartland or have you owned one in the past?

[Dan50]

ReneeG wrote:
One of the things to note about the Heartland Bighorn is that is guaranteed for full time use.

As is the Big Country and Landmark.

[Dan50]

Wadcutter wrote:

Me Again wrote:
The Landmark, Big Horn and Big Country all go down the same assembly line. Big Country lacks rear cap which was on our must have list.

Our 2010 Big Country came with the end cap like on the Big Horn. It didn't have some of the other Big Horn accessories like built in vacuum and a shoe rack in the closet.
I believe later years the Big Country could just be had with the flat end.

Big Country stopped installing rear caps mid 2015 when the 2016 models were being built. Shame. Our 2015 has one. Big selling point.

[ReneeG]

justme wrote:

ReneeG wrote:
One of the things to note about the Heartland Bighorn is that is guaranteed for full time use.

The Army claims their tents are for full time use also. So what does that mean in the RV industry other than a marketing ploy to suck in more people.

Their build is better, which in this case means heavier, thus being able to hold up to full time living use, but that's my interpretation. In my 2011 Warranty Brochure, the following is stated: "Any product used for a commercial or business purpose, including, not limited to, rental, charter, or for other fees for service, or as a residence is excluded from this Limited Warranty. (This residential limitation shall not apply to Land Mark, Big Horn and Big Country brands.)"

Having owned many RV's, we have been extremely happy with the quality, build, and amenities of our Bighorn.

[Jack_Spratt]

We have a 2017 Big Horn 3750FL.
After 5 months of snow birding we are happy with the choice and would get another.
The floor plan was the biggest factor in our choice.
Friends had good things to say about their recent models so we changed from a Montana

[justme]

ReneeG wrote:
One of the things to note about the Heartland Bighorn is that is guaranteed for full time use.

The Army claims their tents are for full time use also. So what does that mean in the RV industry other than a marketing ploy to suck in more people.

[Searching_Ut]

In rating my 2016 Bighorn, I would say it's bottom line as far as assembly quality for things like Electric wiring, prep of roof surface prior to installing roof rubber, basic fit and Finnish etc. They cover that stuff up well with trim though, so it doesn't look bad, and other than the electrical stuff which is poorly done to the point of being somewhat dangerous, not really an issue other than just annoying how little pride is taken in the building of the rig. I'd rate Heartland customer service a fair bit below average.

Component selection and quality of components slightly higher end, keeping in mind they are mostly Lippert sourced. In saying Slightly higher end that is in comparison to an industry standard that is of pretty poor quality. Compared to older rigs I've owned, quality is pretty bad. They have added a lot of nice features though such as LED lighting, auto leveling etc.

[Wadcutter]

Me Again wrote:
The Landmark, Big Horn and Big Country all go down the same assembly line. Big Country lacks rear cap which was on our must have list.

Our 2010 Big Country came with the end cap like on the Big Horn. It didn't have some of the other Big Horn accessories like built in vacuum and a shoe rack in the closet.
I believe later years the Big Country could just be had with the flat end.