Heaviest 5er without a dually?

I will just say if you are wanting a Ford look closely at the tags in the drivers door. I had a 2014? F350 SRW diesel, crew cab, long bed, 4x4, Lariat with a payload of 3267#. I ended up with a pin weight of 3400-3700 (washer & dryer). I traded the Ford for the 2016 Ram 3500 diesel, crew cab, long bed, 4x4, Laramie with 4018# payload.
Apparently Ford had several GVW packages and I had a low one. Not sure what they are selling now.

neal10a wrote:
looks to me that a 2017 F350 SRW diesel truck with all factory upgrade options will pull a 16500 GVW without any problem. Pin Weight on some or those trailers will vary because of where the water and washer dryer are located. Some water tanks are behind the axels and some are not. So a full water tanks and washer dryers will make a significant difference on pin weights. just sayen ;-)

My RAM is rated to tow 17,050 5th wheel. However one would be hard press to stay under the RGAWR at that weight. Chris

looks to me that a 2017 F350 SRW diesel truck with all factory upgrade options will pull a 16500 GVW without any problem. Pin Weight on some or those trailers will vary because of where the water and washer dryer are located. Some water tanks are behind the axels and some are not. So a full water tanks and washer dryers will make a significant difference on pin weights. just sayen ;-)

Here are some weights for our 2015 RAM SRW 3500 CC SB Laramie and 2017 Bighorn 3575el.

Front axle 5120
Rear axle 6620 (varies trip to trip on loading of truck and basement)
Truck sub 11740
Trailer axle 12780
Combined weight 24520

Pin weight runs 3K+/- depending on loading. As you can see if I had a trailer the started at 2900-3000 for dry pin weight then I would be over on the rear axle of the truck.

Truck weight ratings 11700 GVWR, Front Axle 6000, Rear Axle 7000, Combined 25,300
BH3575el Axles 7K GVWR 16,000

Pin weight

5er's have typically 20-25 percent pin. MANY people have no clue what their pin weight is, It will shock most.

justme wrote:

Me Again wrote:
I will repeat this again. Any 5th will that has much over 2500 lbs dry pin weight will not work with a SRW TV. Chris

That is an over statement and not true. My real world pin weight is 3040lbs for my F350 SRW pulling a 40ft. 16500GVW trailer. All Ford Specs are met except combine weight which is 400 lbs over. Axle and carrying are well in spec. The 400 lbs over combined is not a real world problem as far as I am concerned. In that 400lbs is a generator, 12 gal of extra fuel with a full truck tank, 100 lbs of misc like tools, a passenger, a trailair pin box, 20k Reese pro fifth wheel and a cat.

Read what I posted again. the 2500 is dry weight. What I posted is a way to estimate loaded pin weight. What is the dry pin weight of your trailer? the percentage does not vary that much, however can be effected by washer and dryer as I stated.

Chris

Me Again wrote:
I will repeat this again. Any 5th will that has much over 2500 lbs dry pin weight will not work with a SRW TV. Chris

That is an over statement and not true. My real world pin weight is 3040lbs for my F350 SRW pulling a 40ft. 16500GVW trailer. All Ford Specs are met except combine weight which is 400 lbs over. Axle and carrying are well in spec. The 400 lbs over combined is not a real world problem as far as I am concerned. In that 400lbs is a generator, 12 gal of extra fuel with a full truck tank, 100 lbs of misc like tools, a passenger, a trailair pin box, 20k Reese pro fifth wheel and a cat.

I will repeat this again. Any 5th will that has much over 2500 lbs dry pin weight will not work with a SRW TV. Take the dry pin weight and cal the percentage of total dry weight. Then apply that percentage to the GVWR.

Example, my Bighorn 3575el
Dry pin weight 2435
Dry trailer weight 12950
Percent pin weight 18.8%
GVWR 16,000
Cal estimated load pin weight 3008 lbs.

Now lets apply the same logic to a trailer with 2950 dry pin weight.
Dry pin weight 2950
Dry trailer weight 12950
Percent pin weight 22.78%
GVWR 16,000
Cal estimated load pin weight 3645 lbs.

So dry pin weight is an important number to watch while shopping, as I did picking the Bighorn, and passing on pin heavy Cardinal's and Montana's in the size range we wanted.

Add a washer and dryer to a front bedroom closet and it only gets worse. And do not forget to add the weight of the hitch(mine is 270 of Demco picture frame and B&W manual Slider) and anything else you put in the bed of the truck.

Chris

We ft with a 3500 SRW short bed Duramax Chevy. We are SO happy we got the short bed. We chose to pull with a Pull-Rite automatic slider hitch. It has done very well in our 3 years ft, including over the Rockies. Our RV is rated at 15000, but scales at less. Even with the 3500, hitch weight will be the biggest question & challenge. Our RV is within the truck specs. Don't forget that clothes, W/D, generator, chicks & blocks etc will impact hitch weight, as well as anything in the back, or back seat of the truck. Our hitch weighs 200 lbs. For a SRW, I would not exceed 15000 lbs. Less gives you a better margin. Good luck with your decision!

My Ford F350 SRW, rated at 11500 gvw, is pulling a trailer that is rated 16500 GVW. Everything is in Ford spec except the combined weight which is 400# over. I have driven over 50000 miles with the trailer and have not experience any problems with the truck. The trailer suspension is another matter and is more of a concern. I have replace 4 bearings and one axle so far on a Heartland Landmark with Dexter 7000 lbs axles. That trailer IMHO was not intended for long haul travel..... However, the truck is....