Hitch weight may have finally become clear!!!

"Unladen G/CGW is 6006 on the registration"
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You surely cannot trust that. My trailer registration says it weighs 1800#, wrong by several tons.

dballentine wrote:

jdjimenez wrote:
No wonder I can't find it, lol.:)

Inside the glove box door?

You've probably already checked the other door jambs, not just the driver's.

Not on an 01 truck!

jdjimenez wrote:
No wonder I can't find it, lol.:)

Inside the glove box door?

You've probably already checked the other door jambs, not just the driver's.

Weigh your truck with fuel passengers and hitch just like you are ready to hook up your 5er. Take the weight of the rear axle. Now look at the tire rating at max tire pressure, probably 80psi. Now take that number x2. Subtract rear axle weight from tire capacity and you have your answer as to what your max weight that can be added to the hitch. Very little of that weight foes to the front axle. Tires are the weak link usually.

Take the GCWR of the rv, 25% of that number is your Max pin weight.

spud1957 wrote:

jdjimenez wrote:

Michelle.S wrote:
How about on the edge of the Drivers door. Sometimes one sticker on the door pillar and the other on the edge of the drivers door.

Nothing, I've had several people insist that I'm just missing the sticker with that info but when I show them my door they're surprised that information is not there.

The tire and load capacity sticker was not required in 2001. I'm thinking around 2006/07.

No wonder I can't find it, lol.:)

Old-Biscuit wrote:
This is from your post back in Oct.

GVWR - 8800 lbs.
Front GAWR - 4250 lbs.
Rear GAWR - 6084 lbs.

The registration says the unladen weight is - 6006 lbs.

That 8800# is the MAX your truck is rated to weigh (you, fuel, passengers, stuff in cab, stuff in bed)

The axle ratings are what each axle is rated for but you can NOT add them together. That combined number does not exist as the truck is rated as a whole not the sum of the parts. That is the 8800# number (the whole).

Your payload is the 'whole' minus 'actual' weight of truck (with it loaded ready to camp...you, fuel, passengers, stuff etc.)

You have an unladen weight of 6006# so that is a starting point for 'guesstimates' until you actually weigh.
6006# plus 1000# (you,fuel, passengers, stuff and hitch) equals 7006#
GVWR 8800# minus 7006# equals 1794# (call it 1800#)
1800# payload equals a 5th wheel trailer with a GVWR of 9000# (1800#---20% pin weight)

Your 2001 F250 only has a cargo (payload) max rating of 2319# (4X2 Reg. Cab), max rating of 1660# (4X2 Super Cab) and only 1206# (4X2 Crew Cab)

So you see....your truck may have a MAX tow rating of 13,400# but you are running out of rated cargo/payload with a 9000# 5vr.

Sorry but you just don't have a truck that in reality can tow much of a 5vr. regardless of published mfg. numbers.


As for your tires.......just look on the sidewall of your rear tires for the Max Load Rating AT MAX PSI.
With a rear axle rating of 6084# they are probably rated at 3200# each (MAX Load AT MAX PSI)

Old Biscuit,
After all this time I realize that this is indeed the correct calculation. I've had this explained to me so many different ways that my head was spinning and so many people were just wrong.

An Open Range Light was suggest here in another post and we will be looking at them at the Pomona show and a decision will be made then. At least I know the decision will be correct.

Thank you for your help, you were right.

LOL!! Be careful with clear.

jdjimenez wrote:

Michelle.S wrote:
How about on the edge of the Drivers door. Sometimes one sticker on the door pillar and the other on the edge of the drivers door.

Nothing, I've had several people insist that I'm just missing the sticker with that info but when I show them my door they're surprised that information is not there.

The tire and load capacity sticker was not required in 2001. I'm thinking around 2006/07.

This is from your post back in Oct.

GVWR - 8800 lbs.
Front GAWR - 4250 lbs.
Rear GAWR - 6084 lbs.

The registration says the unladen weight is - 6006 lbs.

That 8800# is the MAX your truck is rated to weigh (you, fuel, passengers, stuff in cab, stuff in bed)

The axle ratings are what each axle is rated for but you can NOT add them together. That combined number does not exist as the truck is rated as a whole not the sum of the parts. That is the 8800# number (the whole).

Your payload is the 'whole' minus 'actual' weight of truck (with it loaded ready to camp...you, fuel, passengers, stuff etc.)

You have an unladen weight of 6006# so that is a starting point for 'guesstimates' until you actually weigh.
6006# plus 1000# (you,fuel, passengers, stuff and hitch) equals 7006#
GVWR 8800# minus 7006# equals 1794# (call it 1800#)
1800# payload equals a 5th wheel trailer with a GVWR of 9000# (1800#---20% pin weight)

Your 2001 F250 only has a cargo (payload) max rating of 2319# (4X2 Reg. Cab), max rating of 1660# (4X2 Super Cab) and only 1206# (4X2 Crew Cab)

So you see....your truck may have a MAX tow rating of 13,400# but you are running out of rated cargo/payload with a 9000# 5vr.

Sorry but you just don't have a truck that in reality can tow much of a 5vr. regardless of published mfg. numbers.


As for your tires.......just look on the sidewall of your rear tires for the Max Load Rating AT MAX PSI.
With a rear axle rating of 6084# they are probably rated at 3200# each (MAX Load AT MAX PSI)

All you can do is weigh your truck at a scale (CAT scale) and subtract that weight from the sticker GVWR. Whatever is left is payload. If the fuel was empty, then fuel would be part of the calculated payload, as well as passengers, etc.