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rmalik1
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Which fifth wheels are built having Hung Walls?
1) Cedar Creek
2)
3)
4) etc
2012 Cedar Creek 36RE w/ Level Up
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transamz9
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goducks10 wrote:
So if there's Luan backing on a hung wall system, what's to keep the Luan from separating from the fiberglass should there be a leak? The fiberglass exterior is glued to the Luan, so the only adhesion is where the Luan meets the stud. I don't see it as delam proof. Still trying to figure out why hung walls are superior.


IMO they are not. If anything to me they are not as good. Fiberglass insulation will settle over time especially bouncing down the road. Lam walls also are much stronger for the weight. I am in industrial and commercial construction and we use Lam panels a lot on our projects (at customers request) and they are very strong and last very well compared to other processes. In the RV industry the biggest problem I see with their methods is that they use a backer (Luan)that is not resistant to water intrusion. The panels don't necessarily de-lam. The Luan gets wet and separates which causes the blister look. This can and will also happen with a hung wall using Luan as a backer. The problem with hung walls is that the Fiberglass insulation will also wick the water that gets in and make other problems.;)
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goducks10
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So if there's Luan backing on a hung wall system, what's to keep the Luan from separating from the fiberglass should there be a leak? The fiberglass exterior is glued to the Luan, so the only adhesion is where the Luan meets the stud. I don't see it as delam proof. Still trying to figure out why hung walls are superior.

azjeffh
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colliehauler wrote:
I think Excel was as well.

Since Excel has closed its doors I believe the question was related to current manufacturers.
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colliehauler
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rmalik1 wrote:
so we have;
1)DRV
2)Lifestyle
3)Cedar Creek
4)Augusta RV"
5)Shasta

Thait's the list of RV companies that build with hung walls
I think Excel was as well.

rmalik1
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so we have;
1)DRV
2)Lifestyle
3)Cedar Creek
4)Augusta RV"
5)Shasta

That's the list of RV companies that build with hung walls
2012 Cedar Creek 36RE w/ Level Up
B&W Turnover w/ 18k Companion Hitch
08 Ford 350 Lariat DW PSD Crew Cab Long Bed 4:30

rmalik1
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never received the courtesy of a reply to my e-mail requesting if StoneRidge has hung or laminated walls so I can't put them on the list.
2012 Cedar Creek 36RE w/ Level Up
B&W Turnover w/ 18k Companion Hitch
08 Ford 350 Lariat DW PSD Crew Cab Long Bed 4:30

rmalik1
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still waiting for KZ to respond.
2012 Cedar Creek 36RE w/ Level Up
B&W Turnover w/ 18k Companion Hitch
08 Ford 350 Lariat DW PSD Crew Cab Long Bed 4:30

alboy
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AS per Mbrower ,our newmar is constructed with luan backer glued to the studs 16 inches on center,easy to repair.

mbrower
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goducks10 wrote:
Unless the cutaway is wrong then it looks like the Stoneridge is laminated as it shows Luan backer.


The fiberglass skin will be laminated with a Luan backer but is still attached to the studs with adhesive. The fiberglass skin is very thin and would probably crack in time without the additional support.

With hung walls, the aluminum frame is 16 inch on center and provides the structural strength to the walls.
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goducks10
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Unless the cutaway is wrong then it looks like the Stoneridge is laminated as it shows Luan backer.

rmalik1
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mbrower wrote:
My KZ montego bay is hung wall constructed. I believe their new Stoneridge is hung wall also. I also believe primetime Sanibel fifth wheel is hung wall


Email back from Prime Time Sanibel made with laminated sidewalls.
waiting for KZ StoneRidge
2012 Cedar Creek 36RE w/ Level Up
B&W Turnover w/ 18k Companion Hitch
08 Ford 350 Lariat DW PSD Crew Cab Long Bed 4:30

rmalik1 wrote:
emails out to KZ for StoneRidge and to Prime time for Sanibel (sp).


My 2008 KZ Montego Bay has hung walls. . . And I believe that the 2015 Stoneridge also has them...
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rmalik1
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emails out to KZ for StoneRidge and to Prime time for Sanibel (sp).
2012 Cedar Creek 36RE w/ Level Up
B&W Turnover w/ 18k Companion Hitch
08 Ford 350 Lariat DW PSD Crew Cab Long Bed 4:30

rmalik1
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rmalik1 wrote:
azjeffh wrote:
rmalik1 wrote:
rmalik1 wrote:
filrupmark wrote:
Augusta RV does use hung halls. I own a Augusta Flex AF34RS and it does have hung walls. Luxe as well. You can call the factory 574-848-0200 they will be more than happy to answer any questions.


Why would they have a no delam warranty? As hung walls can't delam.


Got a email to the company; will see what they say.

Actually I hope they do use a hung wall as I need another company that may fit into my future plans.

This link is pretty clear on the type of wall used. Select a model for the wall info.....

Welded Construction
16" On Center Hung Aluminum Walls โ€“ 3.25 Thick


Got email back from company and they said they use hung walls I did ask for explanation as to why they would have a warranty on something that can't happen. Will wait for that reply! Maybe I missed something.


Ryan Miller(seems to be a straight shooter) from Augusta explained that the term "Delamination" is not used for the the sidewall coming apart but the sidewall coming off the studs. Reasonable explanation but not what most know as Delam.
2012 Cedar Creek 36RE w/ Level Up
B&W Turnover w/ 18k Companion Hitch
08 Ford 350 Lariat DW PSD Crew Cab Long Bed 4:30

rmalik1
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rmalik1 wrote:
rmalik1 wrote:
rmalik1 wrote:
Which fifth wheels are built having Hung Walls?
1) Cedar Creek
2)
3)
4) etc


so we have;
1)DRV
2)Lifestyle
3)Cedar Creek
4)Shasta
5)Augusta RV"so far"
2012 Cedar Creek 36RE w/ Level Up
B&W Turnover w/ 18k Companion Hitch
08 Ford 350 Lariat DW PSD Crew Cab Long Bed 4:30