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Luxury toy hauler?

oldbird1965
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We are thinking about trading our Travel Supreme for a toy hauler. The problem is, most toy hauler's are, what we consider, junk! Is there a luxury toy hauler out there that a full timer can enjoy that is nice to live in?
2008 Mobil Suites 36TK3, powerstroke one ton dually.
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Me_Again
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Explorer II
drfife wrote:
Me Again wrote:
No one seems to build a TH for senior snowbirders, they all seem built to families to go to a Nascar event! Chris

Not true.

http://www.excelrvs.com/5th-wheels/excel-wild-cargo/


Maybe you missed where the TV is located/mounted. Queen bed? My old 2005 29'Cardinal has a Camper King 72x80 and I have a really nice computer Desk! Two recliners that good straight at the TV.

Chris
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oldbird1965
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She sleeps with me and if I had a garage, we would sleep together in the garage. My wife doesn't like the idea of a dog in her bed.
2008 Mobil Suites 36TK3, powerstroke one ton dually.

drfife
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Explorer
Me Again wrote:
No one seems to build a TH for senior snowbirders, they all seem built to families to go to a Nascar event! Chris

Not true.

http://www.excelrvs.com/5th-wheels/excel-wild-cargo/
Russell
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jmtandem
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Explorer II
OK, OK, this is getting really interesting! Time for me to come clean. Its not just my snoring, its my love for my Westie dog who sleeps with me is why I sleep in a separate bed, LOL. I'm not saying for a minute that my Travel Supreme is 'luxury' but it has us spoiled to a certain degree. We call our selves half timers but after six months in a camper we are really to get in our house for six months. Thanks everybody for the reply's!!


We camp with a yellow lab. He sleeps where he wants. Usually that is in the same bed with us. It has never been an issue even with previous cabover campers. I don't think I could ever ask a dog to sleep in the garage area of a toyhauler while we slept in the bed. In our family that just would not work.
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jmtandem
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Explorer II
Sure I would like to take my golf cart to Arizona. HOWEVER the living area is set up with a single large U shaped settee made for a family of 8 or ten, TV viewing angles suck with the TV high and off to one side. Wasted bunks everywhere you look for two seniors that want to winter in the South and take their roadbike or GC. Garage is very utilitarian with more bunks that a senior could care less about. Then we could talk about exterior graphics!!!

Give me a half+ width garage for the golf cart and a nice computer, hobby and/or office room in the other half. Chris


Granted most toyhaulers have traditionally been for the family and lots of ATV's or motorcycle toys for weekends at the desert sand dunes, etc. But as the baby boomers age maybe some manufacturers will make what you are looking for. Have you looked at the Airstream PanAmerica. It is designed for two adults, an enclosed eleven foot garage with no bunks, no TV up high, no U shaped sofas, etc. The garage could make into a nice office and lots of seniors are into Airstreams of all types so any senior minded person would feel right at home. And it is Airstream through and through without the loud and fancy graphics of most haulers. In fact, it it hard to distinguish between the Pan America hauler and a regular Airstream without looking very closely at the back.

Travel to Sturgis to the motorcycle festival each year and the haulers are there by the tens of thousands with baby boomers and seniors bringing the motorcycles. Many seniors have adapted the hauler to fit what they want it to. I am sure you could do the same as well until a manufacturer makes exactly what you want for your golf cart.

My issue with most toyhaulers is they are too utilitarian looking inside and out. Some are nicer than others inside -- Fuzion and Voltage make nice looking interiors in the living area. But the whole interior and exterior package taken together still has the ambiance of utilitarian. Maybe that is the 'rugged' or 'macho' look. I don't know.
'05 Dodge Cummins 4x4 dually 3500 white quadcab auto long bed.

oldbird1965
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Explorer
OK, OK, this is getting really interesting! Time for me to come clean. Its not just my snoring, its my love for my Westie dog who sleeps with me is why I sleep in a separate bed, LOL. I'm not saying for a minute that my Travel Supreme is 'luxury' but it has us spoiled to a certain degree. We call our selves half timers but after six months in a camper we are really to get in our house for six months. Thanks everybody for the reply's!!
2008 Mobil Suites 36TK3, powerstroke one ton dually.

Me_Again
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Explorer II
jmtandem wrote:
No one seems to build a TH for senior snowbirders, they all seem built to families to go to a Nascar event! Chris


What do you want in a toyhauler? How is a senior snowbirder's toy hauler different than any other hauler? I tend to think of RV's as falling into one of two categories. The first are those built to be lived in as you might find with a snowbird spending months at a time in a RV; and the second as those that are purely weekend and the two weeks vacation RV's. I would think a snowbirder would want a coach that is designed to be used full time. Other than that, bring the 900 pound Harley, BMW or Gold Wing road bikes, toys, etc. as would any younger person. Maybe it is not race cars at Nascar but seniors still like toys.


Sure I would like to take my golf cart to Arizona. HOWEVER the living area is set up with a single large U shaped settee made for a family of 8 or ten, TV viewing angles suck with the TV high and off to one side. Wasted bunks everywhere you look for two seniors that want to winter in the South and take their roadbike or GC. Garage is very utilitarian with more bunks that a senior could care less about. Then we could talk about exterior graphics!!!

Give me a half+ width garage for the golf cart and a nice computer, hobby and/or office room in the other half. Chris
2021 F150 2.7 Ecoboost - Summer Home 2017 Bighorn 3575el. Can Am Spyder RT-L Chrome, Kawasaki KRX1000. Retired and enjoying it! RIP DW 07-05-2021

jmtandem
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Explorer II
No one seems to build a TH for senior snowbirders, they all seem built to families to go to a Nascar event! Chris


What do you want in a toyhauler? How is a senior snowbirder's toy hauler different than any other hauler? I tend to think of RV's as falling into one of two categories. The first are those built to be lived in as you might find with a snowbird spending months at a time in a RV; and the second as those that are purely weekend and the two weeks vacation RV's. I would think a snowbirder would want a coach that is designed to be used full time. Other than that, bring the 900 pound Harley, BMW or Gold Wing road bikes, toys, etc. as would any younger person. Maybe it is not race cars at Nascar but seniors still like toys.
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Me_Again
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Explorer II
No one seems to build a TH for senior snowbirders, they all seem built to families to go to a Nascar event! Chris
2021 F150 2.7 Ecoboost - Summer Home 2017 Bighorn 3575el. Can Am Spyder RT-L Chrome, Kawasaki KRX1000. Retired and enjoying it! RIP DW 07-05-2021

Sinecure
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As others have asked, are you looking for million dollar luxury or 100,000 luxury? If the latter, I also suggest the Voltage haulers. Mine has a fireplace, 4 televisions, DVD / BluRay, surround sound with subwoofer, corian countertops, 1.5 baths, two electric awnings, remore for slides / awning / lights, 6-point auto leveling system, side-by-side fridge, day/night shades, the list goes on. You can get them with leather recliners and lots of other bells and whistles. It just depends on your definition of luxury.
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Aridon
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oldbird1965 wrote:
I'm glad you agree Aridon but really now, how was my wording so bad??


I'm not here to judge and I certainly am not easily offended. Some get their panties in a wad when you call their unit junk either directly or indirectly. I don't see the big deal in what you said, simply agreeing with your point and when I read it figured a couple would get pissy.

I do wish toy haulers would drop the faux rugid feel or at least give the option for something a little more upscale without having to spend big $$.

Plenty of higher end looking fifth wheels out there that won't break the bank. They aren't DRV nor are you paying the premium like you do with DRV but in the end they still look nice. I found toy haulers mostly have that faux rough'n it feel most of them and I'm not crazy about it.
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jmtandem
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If the problem really is not about toyhaulers but snoring, why not deal with the snoring issue? Getting any toyhauler will not fix snoring even though it might provide some extra room.
'05 Dodge Cummins 4x4 dually 3500 white quadcab auto long bed.

Lantley
Nomad
Nomad
OK junk may have been the wrong word however without getting into custom builds,toy haulers have a lot of great features but they are not as luxurious as a luxury 5th wheel.
Some are taking the OP's comments personally vs. grasping the OP's point.
On the other hand I'm not sure why the OP is seeking out tow haulers if they are truly looking for a luxurious fiver.
There are 2 different types of RV's designed for two different markets.

In the end one is not necessarily better than the other, they are designed for different use.

Toy haulers have grown in popularity due to their space and versatility. Some models do have lots of luxurious features nevertheless a typical toy hauler does not have the same amenities and features as a high end 5'er.
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2324delk
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Your words were not harsh, they reflected your opinion.

Some people are just thinned skinned and always assume you are talking about them.

When I used to ride big bikes, and 4 wheelers, I gave up trying to find a good toy hauler I could afford. I just bought a 7 by 16 utility trailer and used it.

R12RTee
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There is an owner of a Excel toyhauler that had Excel customize the garage area and it is now a bedroom for their young daughter. It came out very nice and the total cost was around $80K. TEAMJ posts on the Excel forum on IRV2.com. Excel builds quality rv's and their customer support is fantastic.
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