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Mobile Suites towed with short bed Dodge?

jarmar
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Can a 2010 Mobile Suites 36 be towed with a short bed truck with slider hitch? Buying different fifth-wheel burned. Last month we were trailer trash and now we are homeless.

Hope to see you on the road.

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45Ricochet
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Cummins12V98 wrote:
kakampers wrote:
jarmar wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
With 4,500# pin weight


My MS dealer friends say you must be carrying your gold bar collection with you.


Your dealer needs to be re-educated....my Landmark has a 4,200 # pin weight...4,500 on a MS is easy to hit!


I don't think most people really have a clue what amount of weight is pushing down on their TV.

I wish on the gold bars! My wife makes jewelry I would guess she adds 3-400# up front. But most of the heavy items are loaded in my tool box in the truck bed. So yea 4,500# is easy to obtain.


Funny I camped with a Canadian one time down in Brookings, Oregon. Saw him at the Liquor store just on the CA/OR border in Cali. I was doing the same thing, stocking up as the price is about half as Idaho more in Canada.
Anyway this guy had like 12 cases of Crown Royal being loaded in his truck. At least it was a 3500 :B.

Back at camp I saw him loading it into the RV, just like I was about to do but only half the amount, OBTW DW likes Dewar's Scotch, I can't stand HL.
Back at the place you purchase firewood I ran into him again and asked where he stored the liquor. Yes indeed he put his in same place I did, in the closet, you know right over the rear truck axle with a few slides to open to get to :W
Point of the very long post (sorry) you can really add a bunch of weight to the pin if you spend enough money ( or save a bunch of $ ) :B I believe mine was in the 300-400 lb range but didn't scale it.
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Cummins12V98
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kakampers wrote:
jarmar wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
With 4,500# pin weight


My MS dealer friends say you must be carrying your gold bar collection with you.


Your dealer needs to be re-educated....my Landmark has a 4,200 # pin weight...4,500 on a MS is easy to hit!


I don't think most people really have a clue what amount of weight is pushing down on their TV.

I wish on the gold bars! My wife makes jewelry I would guess she adds 3-400# up front. But most of the heavy items are loaded in my tool box in the truck bed. So yea 4,500# is easy to obtain.
2015 RAM LongHorn 3500 Dually CrewCab 4X4 CUMMINS/AISIN RearAir 385HP/865TQ 4:10's
37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast"

"HeavyWeight" B&W RVK3600

2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable

2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD

kakampers
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jarmar wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
With 4,500# pin weight


My MS dealer friends say you must be carrying your gold bar collection with you.


Your dealer needs to be re-educated....my Landmark has a 4,200 # pin weight...4,500 on a MS is easy to hit!
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missourijan
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There's a Drv owners forum, www.suitesowners.com, you can sign up with little info (last 4 digits of your VIN) and post this question to actual owners of Drv units. You are probably going to get about the same answers you've been getting.

Njmurvin
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I own your exact truck (except mine's an auto) and I have a SuperGlide hitch. For determining whether or not the MS would hit, I would do the following:

1) Measure the distance from the front of the MS to the center of the kingpin (+/- depending on whether the kingpin is in front of the trailer or underneath the overhang).

2) Measure the distance across the front of the MS (i.e. distance between the points where you think a collision with your truck cab would be likely).

3) Note whether the front of the MS is notched at the corners or if the corners are curved so as to reduce hitting potential.

4) Contact Pullrite tech support with your results. They should be able to tell you if you will hit on a 90 deg turn). I can measure mine and give you my stats for comparison if you'd like. I can tell you that mine doesn't hit, is straight across the front with no curves or notches and the pin is well under the overhang.

5) Have your head examined for even thinking about pulling that trailer with your truck (jk - but I wouldn't try it. That said, my neighbor pulls a shorter MS with an older 7.3L diesel F250 SRW longbed).
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larry_barnhart
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fj12ryder wrote:
I don't think you can really blame it on the dealers any more than you can blame it on the owners. There are lots of people, even on this forum, that think you don't need anything over a 3/4 ton for most any type of towing. I've read posts by 3/4 ton owners that pull a 40' toyhauler and avow that "I can't even tell it's back there". And 1 ton owners that talk about pulling well over 20,000 lbs. with "no issues".

Apparently if it doesn't actually break into 2 pieces then there isn't an issue. ๐Ÿ™‚


a few years ago we attended alpenlite rallies and one guy with a dodge 2500 had his frame break 2 different times so the last time I saw him he had a 3500 truck so I guess anything can break.

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I've got a pre 2012, two things come to mind.

4500# sounds about right, and no way I'd tow this beast with a SRW any where far or fast. A road construction lane shift across the median while beside a semi with an SRW scares me thinking about it.
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JRS___B
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Very Good Point for any fiver. Add a second A/C unit and it probably is up front in the bedroom area, add a washer an dryer, or combo, and chances are it is up front in the bedroom, put some heavy tool boxes in the basement, and it is in the front end as well.

jarmar
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Cummins12V98 wrote:
MS RV's are very heavy and any weight you add to them mostly is in front of the axles and a lot of that weight goes on the TV.


Good point. I wish the fresh water tank was behind the axels as on my Alpenlite.

Hope to see you on the road.

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jarmar wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
Just remember your friend is in sales.


Ahhh!Good advice. Maybe in this case it makes a difference that he is not trying to sell me anything but helping to evaluate a rig from a private party.


I should not think the worst when it comes to sales people! We have a friend that sells GM products. He is actually very knowledgable and honest. Because of that he is #2 in sales.

MS RV's are very heavy and any weight you add to them mostly is in front of the axles and a lot of that weight goes on the TV.
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2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable

2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD

jarmar
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Cummins12V98 wrote:
Just remember your friend is in sales.


Ahhh!Good advice. Maybe in this case it makes a difference that he is not trying to sell me anything but helping to evaluate a rig from a private party.

Hope to see you on the road.

๐Ÿ˜‰

Believe it or not! Time Well Wasted
2004.5 Dodge 3500 CTD SRW SWB QC 4X4 SixSpeed 3.73 Laramie Jacobs EB BrakeSmart
2005 Alpenlite Versailles 32RL PullRite SuperSlider RV PowerTank
Class of '05 Quartzsite Survivor

Cummins12V98
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jarmar wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
With 4,500# pin weight


My MS dealer friends say you must be carrying your gold bar collection with you.


We do carry a lot because we full time. We are at 25% of trailer weight. Heavy but not out of line.

I wish on the gold bar tho!

Just remember your friend is in sales.
2015 RAM LongHorn 3500 Dually CrewCab 4X4 CUMMINS/AISIN RearAir 385HP/865TQ 4:10's
37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast"

"HeavyWeight" B&W RVK3600

2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable

2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD

jarmar
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fj12ryder wrote:
Then why did you ask the question if you already knew the answer?


I was trying to find someone with experiene towing a pre 2012.5.

Hope to see you on the road.

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stripit
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jarmar wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
With 4,500# pin weight


My MS dealer friends say you must be carrying your gold bar collection with you.


I just sent you a message to show what the real world pin weights are on many of the Mobile Suite trailers rolling along the highways.
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