I know unloaded weight is not the same as loaded weight. The DRV web page shows 15000 dry with a 3,000 pin. Of course that is before all the must haves we put in them. These trucks will not only pull them things they can stop with those things also. Your right about thinking it just kind of grows and grows and then the check book comes out. I've got three months or so before delivery and now I am looking at after market things for the new rig. Oh no here comes the checkbook again.