We tried them ALL had a Tripod mounted dish, Had bought Wingard, and ended up with DISH Tailgater !! Always had problem getting the Tripod level then having to "aim" dish, not to mention storing the dish, and tripod when done. Never had any luck at all with wingard (Tried 2 different units). NEVER had a problem with the tailgaters, (we have 2 of them) We just put them on 2 small folding tables point the carry handles to the south and let them do their thing. Never had a problem with either one of them !! Good Luck and Happy Camping !!