Stewards Volunteers are no longer allowed

nayther wrote:
As long as Mom is alive we'll be in Burbank. We already lost one son and family to AZ, might look there too.

Crazy parallels. Went to the same university, married women with the same names, and now we stay in L.A. out of the same dedication to our moms.

dedmiston wrote:

nayther wrote:

Dirtclods wrote:
Thank you, nayther


In California it's very limited to where you can go off roading. In many other states it's promoted. But not in California and we're loosing more ground every year.

I've been looking at moving to Utah where OHV is actually welcome and encouraged.

Same here. Too bad all of our friends are down here.

As long as Mom is alive we'll be in Burbank. We already lost one son and family to AZ, might look there too.

nayther wrote:

Dirtclods wrote:
Thank you, nayther


In California it's very limited to where you can go off roading. In many other states it's promoted. But not in California and we're loosing more ground every year.

I've been looking at moving to Utah where OHV is actually welcome and encouraged.

Same here. Too bad all of our friends are down here.

Dirtclods wrote:
Thank you, nayther


In California it's very limited to where you can go off roading. In many other states it's promoted. But not in California and we're loosing more ground every year.

I've been looking at moving to Utah where OHV is actually welcome and encouraged.

Thank you, nayther


In California it's very limited to where you can go off roading. In many other states it's promoted. But not in California and we're loosing more ground every year.

nayther wrote:
Stewards of The Sequoia has been in existence for many years. USFS encourages volunteerism to help maintain motorized and non-motorized trails (most in the forest are multi-use). I have supported Stewards financially many times. Met a ranger at Kennedy Meadows two years ago, he was very vocal about getting help but when I brought up Stewards and their upcoming work weekends, he didn't bite, I could tell there was some bad blood somewhere. The Executive Director is Chris Horgan, a VERY passionate trail user with an extensive background in trail maintenance to the point that he's come up with mitigation measures that were ground breaking.

Every winter countless trees and limbs fall and block trails and if not removed new non-authorized trails emerge as users bypass the fallen debris, some of these trees are very tall/long necessitating a long misguided trail that may damage sensitive habitat, Stewards go out every spring and clear these snags to keep the trails open.

Chris has been very vocal about the travel management plans proposed and in particular the "1/2 mile" buffer from the PCT, with the limited amount of non-wilderness land that buffer is just not possible, there are already way too many trails that do not connect, forcing users to double back, adding double the use.

Chris' mention of "freedom of speech" is that Stewards, and he, are being singled out since they stand up to the bullying tactics of the USFS (they'd rather shut ALL trails off to motorized access, reducing use and maintenance.

I too would be interested to hear how the ranger can justify denying trail maintenance access to a qualified group, that should not be allowed.

That's a great explanation. Thank you Nayther for clarifying this for us.

Dirtclods wrote:
Keep trails open

https://www.opencampaign.com/petition/forest-service-terminates-award-winning-volunteers/8183

(Moved to the Destinations category.)

Thanks for posting

Stewards of The Sequoia has been in existence for many years. USFS encourages volunteerism to help maintain motorized and non-motorized trails (most in the forest are multi-use). I have supported Stewards financially many times. Met a ranger at Kennedy Meadows two years ago, he was very vocal about getting help but when I brought up Stewards and their upcoming work weekends, he didn't bite, I could tell there was some bad blood somewhere. The Executive Director is Chris Horgan, a VERY passionate trail user with an extensive background in trail maintenance to the point that he's come up with mitigation measures that were ground breaking.

Every winter countless trees and limbs fall and block trails and if not removed new non-authorized trails emerge as users bypass the fallen debris, some of these trees are very tall/long necessitating a long misguided trail that may damage sensitive habitat, Stewards go out every spring and clear these snags to keep the trails open.

Chris has been very vocal about the travel management plans proposed and in particular the "1/2 mile" buffer from the PCT, with the limited amount of non-wilderness land that buffer is just not possible, there are already way too many trails that do not connect, forcing users to double back, adding double the use.

Chris' mention of "freedom of speech" is that Stewards, and he, are being singled out since they stand up to the bullying tactics of the USFS (they'd rather shut ALL trails off to motorized access, reducing use and maintenance.

I too would be interested to hear how the ranger can justify denying trail maintenance access to a qualified group, that should not be allowed.

Tvov wrote:
Okay, I am not sure what this is all about, but I like to keep public lands open to, well, the public!

Is this about allowing motorized vehicles on federal lands?

You got it.
Check out their website and also a google on the subject. And read some of the comments from petition signers in the clicky. This will give you more input on the issues.
We don't have to own a Toy hauler to discuss both sides of this issue as this affect us all ..not just me.

It would be interesting hearing why this action was taken.......from the department.

Okay, I am not sure what this is all about, but I like to keep public lands open to, well, the public!

Is this about allowing motorized vehicles on federal lands?