Weight Police: Need Help!!!

[Tgator1]

Truck: '13 Chevy 2500HD, cc, sb, 4X4, SRW, Dmax, Allison. Stock suspension, but will upgrade to Timbrens, and may look into air bags.

Looking at KZ Durango Gold G359RET: UVW 10640, dry hitch 2190, dry axle 8450, NCC 2960, GVWR 13600.

Hitch is a Reese 20k slider.

[Me_Again]

Tgator1 wrote:
I may have to add some rear suspension mods, and / or upgrade wheels and tires, but I shouldn't have to trade for another truck.

Happy trails!

You got it! Chris

[CWSWine]

You can run the numbers all you want and all you need to know is what is on the yellow sticker on the door jam. Check out he section on what can my truck tow.

Towing Planner

[Tgator1]

Thanks for your comments and suggestions. As one of the first to respond reported the GAWR's are 5200 front and 6200 rear. TV tires are LT245/75R17 load range E, max load 3195.

The reason I addressed "Weight Police" was because I knew from reading many similar topics on this forum that if I was anywhere close to the limits of my truck, they would be responding. It seems that once on the weight police force, they are in for life!

After reading every post, I am confident that my truck will handle this RV just fine. I may have to add some rear suspension mods, and / or upgrade wheels and tires, but I shouldn't have to trade for another truck.

Happy trails!

[nevadan660]

That size and weight fifth wheel KZ Durango Gold G359RET that you are considering is fine for the truck you have. I noticed the trailer GVWR only allows you to have approx. 3k payload, consider that. Mine has approx. 5k payload (2015 Artic Fox 29-5T 10,876 UVW, 15,700 GVWR)I immediately replaced tires on fifth wheel when I purchased to Maxxis tires (They weigh 8lbs. more each than OEM Marathons). Also, I upgraded OEM tires for my(2005 2500HD Duramax) and installed air bags. Upgrading all the tires and adding air bags makes a huge difference. Just my thoughts

[Toolguy5]

Tgator1 wrote:
Truck: '13 Chevy 2500HD, cc, sb, 4X4, SRW, Dmax, Allison. Stock suspension, but will upgrade to Timbrens, and may look into air bags.

Looking at KZ Durango Gold G359RET: UVW 10640, dry hitch 2190, dry axle 8450, NCC 2960, GVWR 13600.

Hitch is a Reese 20k slider.

I had an 2006 2500HD cc ab 4x4 SRW Dmax Allison all stock.

I towed a 2013 Chapparal Dry 10800, dry hitch 2200, GVWR 13700 no issues. I had a 18K auto Superglide it was about 300 lbs. I went through the Ozarks as well as all through the smokies. Never an issue. No issues climbing or stopping. I even had to hit brakes hard a few times for idiots cutting me off.

I wanted a new Truck so I went to the Truck in my signature so I had more truck in case I upgraded to a heavier Fifth wheel. Besides the truck I have now is what I always wanted but could never afford. It maybe my last so I splurged.
Happy trails.

[rhagfo]

JIMNLIN wrote:

Tgator1 wrote:
Truck: '13 Chevy 2500HD, cc, sb, 4X4, SRW, Dmax, Allison. Stock suspension, but will upgrade to Timbrens, and may look into air bags.

Looking at KZ Durango Gold G359RET: UVW 10640, dry hitch 2190, dry axle 8450, NCC 2960, GVWR 13600.

Hitch is a Reese 20k slider.

AS was suggested I wouldn't do a thing to the truck until you get it hooked up and make a short trip just to see how the truck looks/handles.

If it has more squat than you like then is the time to add rear suspension help (Timbrens/bags/Supersprings/etc).
Many 2500 GM trucks with the Dmax/A will have the 18" higher rated tires and wheels so no worries there unless your into 15k-17k lbs trailers..
I seriously doubt a '13 2500 GM will need any suspension help with that trailer.

X2
That was the final requirement of our PDI to hookup to our TV to see how the TV and trailer sat. Well the TV didn't settle much and the 5er was a bit nose high. We have finally got the last of the nose high taken care of. That still leaves over GVWR, but well under GRAWR.

[SabreCanuck]

CWSWine wrote:

SabreCanuck wrote:

SanMarMor wrote:
People keep saying it's fine to go over the trucks weight sticker ratings. Sure, it will pull, it may even stop, sort of. But if you ever get in an accident, the first thing the insurance company will do, is check to see if you were over ratings. When they find you were, your insurance is no good, and lawyers from the other vehicle in the accident, will come after you with a vengeance. After all, you negligently disregarded the trucks specifications. You are at fault. You can imagine where that will go.

Mark

I've always been curious if anyone stating the above actually has FIRST PERSON experience with that or is it another internet myth? Sad that you americans live life in fear of the all mighty lawyer. Another reason to move to Canada next year, maybe 🙂

Not condoning the overloading or not overloaded conversation, just curious if ANYONE can step up and say that the above law suite actually happened to them.?

I quote "We can bring in professionals to examine the wreckage for evidence that the motor home was dangerously overweight or unbalanced, that the tires or brakes were worn, that the hitch was not rated for the load, or that the RV lacked the proper lights, reflectors or mirrors."

RV Accident Lawyer

Not exactly first person example I had asked for.? :h

[YnotTurbo]

Get the Firestone airbags. It will keep the load level and more stable.

[JIMNLIN]

Tgator1 wrote:
Truck: '13 Chevy 2500HD, cc, sb, 4X4, SRW, Dmax, Allison. Stock suspension, but will upgrade to Timbrens, and may look into air bags.

Looking at KZ Durango Gold G359RET: UVW 10640, dry hitch 2190, dry axle 8450, NCC 2960, GVWR 13600.

Hitch is a Reese 20k slider.

AS was suggested I wouldn't do a thing to the truck until you get it hooked up and make a short trip just to see how the truck looks/handles.

If it has more squat than you like then is the time to add rear suspension help (Timbrens/bags/Supersprings/etc).
Many 2500 GM trucks with the Dmax/A will have the 18" higher rated tires and wheels so no worries there unless your into 15k-17k lbs trailers..
I seriously doubt a '13 2500 GM will need any suspension help with that size trailer.

[dave17352]

If the 2500 has everything the same except the spring pack and the OP beefs it up whats the big deal. I suppose in the far off never never land of this lawsuit, the fact that the OP put on aftermarket gear that made it as capable or more capable, I think that would hold up just fine in court. Especially after they pointed out that all other components were exactly the same. Now lets have someone who knows tell us if the 2500 and 3500 HD's are exactly the same except tires and spring packs. I bet they are. JMHO

[MFL]

Me Again wrote:
Another post with no follow up from OP. Chris

Like I mentioned, why ask WP for help, when overloaded?

April 1st? :R

Jerry

[Me_Again]

Another post with no follow up from OP. Chris

[CWSWine]

SabreCanuck wrote:

SanMarMor wrote:
People keep saying it's fine to go over the trucks weight sticker ratings. Sure, it will pull, it may even stop, sort of. But if you ever get in an accident, the first thing the insurance company will do, is check to see if you were over ratings. When they find you were, your insurance is no good, and lawyers from the other vehicle in the accident, will come after you with a vengeance. After all, you negligently disregarded the trucks specifications. You are at fault. You can imagine where that will go.

Mark

I've always been curious if anyone stating the above actually has FIRST PERSON experience with that or is it another internet myth? Sad that you americans live life in fear of the all mighty lawyer. Another reason to move to Canada next year, maybe 🙂

Not condoning the overloading or not overloaded conversation, just curious if ANYONE can step up and say that the above law suite actually happened to them.?

I quote "We can bring in professionals to examine the wreckage for evidence that the motor home was dangerously overweight or unbalanced, that the tires or brakes were worn, that the hitch was not rated for the load, or that the RV lacked the proper lights, reflectors or mirrors."

RV Accident Lawyer

[Cummins12V98]

2500/3500 RAM SRW same 3.42's. But 3500 has available stronger trans and more powerful engine.

[goducks10]

Don't the 2500-3500 have the same drive train? I know there's certain years where things may differ a bit. But the 2500 has the same motor, same tranny and same brakes. It will pull and stop the same. It only has a lower rated set of rear springs. Now maybe for 2016 things are different. Tow ratings to a certain extent are based partly on gearing. Put 3.42s in and it drops. Put 4.10s in and it goes up. Same brakes, tranny, motor.
Only thing the OPs lacking is some stiffer springs. That 5er isn't some big behemoth TH that he's loading 4000lbs of gear in that's already got a 3000lb pin weight.
That 5th wheel is plenty doable if he keeps weights in check.