Whats Your Real Weights? Truck and Trailer. The Real Deal

[juzplanekrazy]

I don’t know if it’s been done before or not but I was thinking about keeping a running list of real truck weights by year and type, and trailer weights by brand, size and what the total combined weight is of each guys rig. I was hoping the info would be a help for guys wondering about what the real weights are for a certain type of truck and to keep track of the more popular brand 5th wheel trailers. Another thing that will come out of it will be to see just how many guys really know what they are towing and if they know what their weight capacities are.
I’m sure it will take some time to compile a list and it will grow as guys add there info but I’m hoping it will help the newer guys in the long run to be directed back over to this thread in the future.
I’ll keep the TV lists to mainly the big 3 and from ¾ ton and up and I’ll try to keep the 5ers in a group by real GVW, length, and then manufacture. Any ideas are welcome as long as it makes things easier. And only real information can be given, so no guessing allowed. Only guys that have scaled there rigs or are totally certain of the weights.
Let’s see if I can keep the format real simple to type down and that will make it simpler for guys to refer back to and to keep track of.
Here we go……

TV - 2006 Dodge Mega Cab 3500 4x4, real scaled weight with full fuel, hitch, DH-DW and misc. gear = 7,500lbs. TV GVWR is 10,200lbs
5ver – KZ New Vision TH 38ft 14,500lbs loaded GVW. GVWR is 18,000lbs
Normal running TV & TH GCW weight= 22,500lbs, TV GCWR is 23,000lbs
Real Wet Pin Weight=2,950lbs

[JohnnyT]

OK folks back on topic
"Whats Your Real Weights? Truck and Trailer. The Real Deal"

JohnnyT Moderator

[Pete_k]

Front 7460 AS you can see my front axles weights more then most pickups weight.
Rear 6280
Total 13740
above is the truck weight without the camper.
Front 7002
Rear 8550
Pin weight 4270
Camper axles 14188
GRoss with the camper 29740 with no water and no propane.
1987 Ford F800 Diesel with Road Ranger 10 speed, 60" stand up sleeper and hauler bed.
Camper 2012 Heartland Landmark Key Largo, 41ft long and gross weight around 16,250.
Hitch is Trailer Saver TS3

[Winged_One]

Info on our 2013 F350-DRW 2wd and Brookstone 354TS.

====350 Ratings===Without Trailer== With Trailer
GAW-F ==5,250.======4,500==============4,540.
GAW-R ==9,650.======4,000==============7,340.
TRLR===15,500.========================11,240. axles 2x7000
TRLR===15,500.========================14,580. total
GCWR===30,500.========================23,120.
GVWr===14,000.========================11,880.
CCC=====6,151
PIN======3,340

Truck and trailer loaded with fuel, water 2/3 full (about 55 gal). No swivel wheel with this weighing.

[william_davey]

2012 Ram 3500 CC DRW Big Horn with Max Tow
F axle 4800 (rated 5500) R axle 6640 (rated 9350) Truck total 11,240 (rated 12,300) full fuel, tools, hitch, tools ready for 3 month snowbird trip.

2013 KZ Stoneridge Sportster 41CKS toy hauler: Pin wt 2570 ; axle wt 13,260 trailer total 15,830 tanks empty, propane full, Harley Heritage in garage, clothes, food, supplies ready for 3 month snowbird trip. Trailer GVWR 19,000.

[sdetweil]

info on our 2012 F350-DRW and Alpine 3720fb.

====350 Ratings===Without Trailer== With Trailer
GAW-F ==5,400.========tbd==============5,240.
GAW-R ==9,000.========tbd==============6,660.
TRLR===15,500.========================10,600.
GCWr===30,000.========================22,500.
GVWr===13,300.========================11,900.

Trailer Wt loaded,no water - Trailer Axles 10,600+ 2700(est)Pin = 13,300 (dry weight sticker 12,465)

[rhagfo]

Charli wrote:
Finally made it to the scales, what a surprise.
5er - '12 Cougar XLite 26SAB \ Dry Wt 6755, Pin Wt 1150
TV - '08 Ram 2500 Laramie, Quad, 4x4, CTD, 3.73

======2500 Ratings===Without Trailer== With Trailer
GAW-F ==5,200.========4,629.=======4,608.
GAW-R ==6,200.========3,174.=======4,982.
GVW====9,000.========7,803.=======9,590.
GCW===20,000.=====9,590 + Trailer Axles 6,812 = 16,402.
Payload==1,970.========1,197.=======-590. overweight
Trailer Wt loaded, no water - Trailer Axles 6,812 + 1787 Pin = 8,599

I don't see an issue, yes you are over the trucks GVWR, but well under the RAWR of 6,100#, you have 1,200# of margin on the stock size tires, and remember as a 2500 series RAM you have a STRONG full floating rear axle.
Likely sits level or a bit tail up still, I would not give it a second thought.

[sidney]

Truck Weight... Loaded with 2 passengers, gear, dog and hitch.

Front Axle: 5,150 FAWR: 6,000
Rear Axle: 3,600 RAWR: 7,000
Total: 8,750 GVWR: 11,700

Truck with Loaded ready to camp 5th wheel...

Front Axle: 5,150
Rear Axle: 6,550
Total: 11,700

Trailer axles: 10,100 Axle Rating 2 x 6000 = 12,000

GCW: 21,800 GCWR: 25,000

Pin Weight: 2,950 (6,550 - 3600) Dry Pin Weight: 2095

Trailer GVW: 13,050 (10,100 + 2950) GVWR 14,085

Trailer Cargo: 1,155 (13,050 - 11,895 Dry Weight)

GCW: 11,700 + 10,100 = 21,800 GCWR 25,000

I was a little surprised how much of our cargo weight of 1,115 lbs contributed to the total pin weight (2,950 - 2095 = 855 lbs).

Proving yet again... the published dry pin weights from the manufacturers are of very little help when considering your trucks actual payload capacity.

[Charli]

Unfortunately not a lot of storage room behind the axles. Kitchen is over the axles and then of course all the storage under the bed and in the basement plus the spare tire is under the front of the trailer. I do have 2 mtn bikes on the back. Perhaps I should be looking at a rear kitchen model next time which should help offset all the items stored in the basement of a 5er.

[Glen_Schumann]

Charli wrote:
Finally made it to the scales, what a surprise.
5er - '12 Cougar XLite 26SAB \ Dry Wt 6755, Pin Wt 1150
TV - '08 Ram 2500 Laramie, Quad, 4x4, CTD, 3.73

======2500 Ratings===Without Trailer== With Trailer
GAW-F ==5,200.========4,629.=======4,608.
GAW-R ==6,200.========3,174.=======4,982.
GVW====9,000.========7,803.=======9,590.
GCW===20,000.=====9,590 + Trailer Axles 6,812 = 16,402.
Payload==1,970.========1,197.=======-590. overweight

Your pin weight ratio from the factory was 17%; as you loaded the camper it's over 20%. Can you move stuff to the backend of the camper(or at least behind the camper axles)? Since the only place you are over is GVWR hitched that may help some.
The newer trucks have higher GVWRs and from what I hear higher yet is on the way. Lot's of competition in that area.

[sdetweil]

Yeh Charli.. 2500/f250 don't have a lot of carrying capacity.
my 250 was 10,000 gvwt, and 8380 truck only (nothing in the bed).
leaving a total of only 1620 lbs carrying.

Sam

[Charli]

Finally made it to the scales, what a surprise.
5er - '12 Cougar XLite 26SAB \ Dry Wt 6755, Pin Wt 1150
TV - '08 Ram 2500 Laramie, Quad, 4x4, CTD, 3.73

======2500 Ratings===Without Trailer== With Trailer
GAW-F ==5,200.========4,629.=======4,608.
GAW-R ==6,200.========3,174.=======4,982.
GVW====9,000.========7,803.=======9,590.
GCW===20,000.=====9,590 + Trailer Axles 6,812 = 16,402.
Payload==1,970.========1,197.=======-590. overweight
Trailer Wt loaded, no water - Trailer Axles 6,812 + 1787 Pin = 8,599

The scales must be broken. Cant believe that the truck when loaded with myself, DW, Dog and a few odds n' ends but no trailer shows that my remaining payload reduces from the door sticker at 1970 down to 1197. Also cant believe that we have loaded 1844# of stuff in the 5er (which is supposedly 1/2 T towable).
The truck squats about 3" and is almost on the overloads but handles great and lots of pulling power.
Our plan was to upsize the 5er to something with a dry weight of 10,500# and a Pin wt of around 2,000. I figured I would have to add a leaf and/or air bags as seems to be the case with so many out there but based on the above wts a bigger 5er will put me in danger of exceeding a 3500's wt ratings. They say the only difference between a 2500 and 3500 is an extra leaf so perhaps thats my solution.
DW retires next summer and the following winter we want to winter in Az so I have till then to decide what to do. Any ideas would be most welcome.

[Jarheadfmf03]

I have a 2004 F350 Crew Cab 4x4 and a 2003 Terry 5th wheel that is 11,000 lbs. empty. I'm guessing full of fuel and water and everything else my wife fills every little compartment with I might be at 22,500 lbs.

[Buckeye_Chuck]

I did ask in an earlyer post how much people loaded in their fiver. I have asked quite a few questions. This is a great place to ask questions.

Truck GVWR.....10000
Truck GCWR.....19500
Truck RAWR.....6100
Truck Max. Payload....3100

Cat Scale weight of truck alone:
Steer Axel..... 4080
Drive Axel..... 3200
Gross Weight w/full fuel, passengers and hitch.....7280

[ependydad]

Buckeye Chuck wrote:
Just got it weighed today at Cat Scale.

Steer axel: 4000 lb
Drive axle 5380 lb
Trailer Axels: 9540 lb
Gross Weight: 18920 lb

2012 F250 Super Cab swb (short wheel base) 6.2L gasser pulling a 2013 Sabre 33CKTS

Where do you fall against your truck's stickers say for GVWR and GAWRs?

Did you weigh the truck alone? Didn't you ask how much people typically load into their RVs?

[Buckeye_Chuck]

Just got it weighed today at Cat Scale.

Steer axel: 4000 lb
Drive axle 5380 lb
Trailer Axels: 9540 lb
Gross Weight: 18920 lb

2012 F250 Super Cab swb (short wheel base) 6.2L gasser pulling a 2013 Sabre 33CKTS..38ft