donroe123 wrote:
Newbee hitting the road. Figuring weight is crazy to me. Here are my numbers if someone with more brain power will look at them.
Ram 3500 dually 6.7 diesel scale weight front 5220
rear 3840
with 375res solitude attached front 5320
rear 7640
trailer axles 14,200
total weight 27,220
Trailer GVWR 16,800 Truck GCWR 30,000
Axle GAWR 7,000ea GVWR 14,000
Thanks for any opinions
I think you are fine! Just remove a complete clutch assembly from my tool box and I would be at or within SAE Ratings. You have PLENTY of room to grow.
You added weight to your front axle that's good. Your hitch must be forward of axle centerline.
Do you have the AISIN trans?
GPG52! wrote:
We are fortunate enough to have two 5th wheel trailers
2014 Keystone Cougar 327 RES which we have now parked and use as a summer cottage
and
2005 Keystone Cougar 285 EFS which is easier to tow and park.
2014 Ford F250 Super Duty
Weight at an MTO commercial scale (Ministry of Transportation Ontario)
Truck steering axle (front) 4,431 lbs
Truck rear axle trailer attached 9,480 lbs
Truck and trailer combo 16,799 lbs
Trailer only while attached to truck 7,474 lbs.
Both units were loaded from a return camping trip, two 30lbs propane tanks full, 2/3 potable water in holding tank. Grey and Black tanks empty which is our typical travel configuration
There is NO WAY your rear axle is at 9489 with those trailers... IF so, you are WAY over your RAWR... My 2020 F359 has a RAWar of 7259... my 2915 F350 was 7100
TV 2014 Ram 2500: 8,380 lbs - 5,060 front - 3,320 rear (fueled up + me)
TV + 5er: 5,060 front - 5,020 rear (axle GAWR 6,000 front 6,500 rear)
GVW: 10,080 (GVWR of 10,000) leaves me 80 lbs overweight plus wife and kid ๐
Trailer 2006 FR Wildcat: 11,120 lbs total - 9,420 axles - 1,700 pin
Trailer dry rating: 9,500 total - 1,300 pin
GCVW: 19,500 lbs
I am happy to find out I am within axle ratings and GVWR fully loaded but not so much that I'm over GVWR (in my mind I thought it was 10,500 lbs). I don't have any safety concerns about the GVWR but worry about possible issues with the law. I would rather have more truck than I need and be under the numbers but this is what I have to work with. Honestly I wouldn't want tow anything heavier with this 2500. I added airbags to soften the bucking but doing it all over I'd opt for the 3500, DRW if towing anything bigger long distances.
TV + 5er: 5,060 front - 5,020 rear (axle GAWR 6,000 front 6,500 rear)
GVW: 10,080 (GVWR of 10,000) leaves me 80 lbs overweight plus wife and kid ๐
Trailer 2006 FR Wildcat: 11,120 lbs total - 9,420 axles - 1,700 pin
Trailer dry rating: 9,500 total - 1,300 pin
GCVW: 19,500 lbs
I am happy to find out I am within axle ratings and GVWR fully loaded but not so much that I'm over GVWR (in my mind I thought it was 10,500 lbs). I don't have any safety concerns about the GVWR but worry about possible issues with the law. I would rather have more truck than I need and be under the numbers but this is what I have to work with. Honestly I wouldn't want tow anything heavier with this 2500. I added airbags to soften the bucking but doing it all over I'd opt for the 3500, DRW if towing anything bigger long distances.
rbcamping wrote:rhagfo wrote:
Well we had a bit of a surprise when we weighed this week. :E
Not a Cat Scale, but ODOT road side scal accurate within 50#, scale was about one mile from park we were leaving.
TV 2001 Ram 2500 with Camper Package.
Trailer 2005 Sprinter 293 FWSWS 32'
Unloaded TV with full fuel with most stuff loaded.
Front GAWR 5,200# scaled 4,500#
Rear GAWR 6,084# scaled 3,350#
Loaded TV
Front 4,550#
Rear 5,950#
Total 10,500#
Trailer
Pin 10,500# - 7,850# = 2,650
Axles 10,125
5er total 10,125# + 2,650# = 12,775
Total GCVW 20,625#
This rig tows great does well on hills both up and down.
This is stock 2500 with Camper Package and a full set of Bilstein 5100 shocks.
If your truck has an auto, you might want to check into putting the 3rd gen front brakes on the truck, it's about 35% more brakes over the second gen. You will have to change your wheels and tires, but its a very big improvement and not that expensive. I have a 2000 2nd gen with bigger brakes, 19.5 wheels and tires, Allison auto, bigger drive line and more power, pulls great, towing a 16000 lb camper. I have yet to weight the rig. that's next.
Well the 2001 has a PacBrake turbo mounted that works great down hill never need to use the service brakes.
It is a great TV, but we are looking at going down to one vehicle, SO we needed to get something a little new and bigger.
rhagfo wrote:
Well we had a bit of a surprise when we weighed this week. :E
Not a Cat Scale, but ODOT road side scal accurate within 50#, scale was about one mile from park we were leaving.
TV 2001 Ram 2500 with Camper Package.
Trailer 2005 Sprinter 293 FWSWS 32'
Unloaded TV with full fuel with most stuff loaded.
Front GAWR 5,200# scaled 4,500#
Rear GAWR 6,084# scaled 3,350#
Loaded TV
Front 4,550#
Rear 5,950#
Total 10,500#
Trailer
Pin 10,500# - 7,850# = 2,650
Axles 10,125
5er total 10,125# + 2,650# = 12,775
Total GCVW 20,625#
This rig tows great does well on hills both up and down.
This is stock 2500 with Camper Package and a full set of Bilstein 5100 shocks.
If your truck has an auto, you might want to check into putting the 3rd gen front brakes on the truck, it's about 35% more brakes over the second gen. You will have to change your wheels and tires, but its a very big improvement and not that expensive. I have a 2000 2nd gen with bigger brakes, 19.5 wheels and tires, Allison auto, bigger drive line and more power, pulls great, towing a 16000 lb camper. I have yet to weight the rig. that's next.
