Whats Your Real Weights? Truck and Trailer. The Real Deal

[juzplanekrazy]

I don’t know if it’s been done before or not but I was thinking about keeping a running list of real truck weights by year and type, and trailer weights by brand, size and what the total combined weight is of each guys rig. I was hoping the info would be a help for guys wondering about what the real weights are for a certain type of truck and to keep track of the more popular brand 5th wheel trailers. Another thing that will come out of it will be to see just how many guys really know what they are towing and if they know what their weight capacities are.
I’m sure it will take some time to compile a list and it will grow as guys add there info but I’m hoping it will help the newer guys in the long run to be directed back over to this thread in the future.
I’ll keep the TV lists to mainly the big 3 and from ¾ ton and up and I’ll try to keep the 5ers in a group by real GVW, length, and then manufacture. Any ideas are welcome as long as it makes things easier. And only real information can be given, so no guessing allowed. Only guys that have scaled there rigs or are totally certain of the weights.
Let’s see if I can keep the format real simple to type down and that will make it simpler for guys to refer back to and to keep track of.
Here we go……

TV - 2006 Dodge Mega Cab 3500 4x4, real scaled weight with full fuel, hitch, DH-DW and misc. gear = 7,500lbs. TV GVWR is 10,200lbs
5ver – KZ New Vision TH 38ft 14,500lbs loaded GVW. GVWR is 18,000lbs
Normal running TV & TH GCW weight= 22,500lbs, TV GCWR is 23,000lbs
Real Wet Pin Weight=2,950lbs

[cruz]

OK ... See if I can get this right ...

TV - 2006 Chevy 3500 Silverado DW D/A 4X4 CC - full tank, hitch, 2 adults, 2 Dogs ... #8180

Weights WITH the Trailer
Steering axle - 4,640#
Drive axle - 6,840#
GVWR - 11,400#; Actual - 11,480#
Puts Pin Weight at 3,300# !!

Trailer Axle - 10,880#
Gross Weight - 22,360#

CRUZ

[bobandcat]

khunter wrote:
This is really stupid-we bought a 2007 2500HD Silverado Duramax diesel, we also bought a 2008 Grand Junction-specification says: unloaded vehicle weight: 12,246
dry hitch weight: 2,472
gross vehicle weight: 15,500
question: what and why do you have to weight the axel and how do you do it? I carry very little in 5th to avoid extra weight.
kkjb48@aol.com

Stop at any truck fueling station like Pilot, Flying J or Loves and pull on their truck scales being sure that your truck front axle, truck rear axle and 5th wheel axles are on separate weigh platforms. You will get a weigh ticket showing each axle weight. Make sure that your 5ver is loaded the way you intend to travel including water, propane, food, clothes etc. Also have everything in the truck that you would travel with like the wife, kids, dogs and snacks, etc.

Unfortunately, your Grand Junction is too heavy for a 2500HD. You should have a 3500 dually for that heavy of a trailer. Some folks will argue that you are OK, but you will be exceeding the Chevy GVWR of your truck by quite a bit.

If you decide to stay with this truck, not a good choice, at least get a set of Timbrens or air bags to help the rear suspension and upgrade the tires and rims to a higher load rating.

Here is a good example of a Chevy from a couple of posts back with all of the weights. With a much lighter 5ver, it slightly exceeds the GVWR of the truck (IMHO, not a big deal).

TV - 2004 Chevy 2500HD Silverado D/A 4X4 - full tank, hitch, 2 adults
Steering axle - 4670# (4670# GAWR)
Rear axle unloaded - 3060#
Rear axle w/trailer - 5060# (6084# GAWR)
GVWR - 9200#; Actual - 9360#

[khunter]

93mastercraft wrote:
See my signature. That was with the F250.

I am not sure what you are trying to tell me????

[93mastercraft]

See my signature. That was with the F250.

[khunter]

This is really stupid-we bought a 2007 2500HD Silverado Duramax diesel, we also bought a 2008 Grand Junction-specification says: unloaded vehicle weight: 12,246
dry hitch weight: 2,472
gross vehicle weight: 15,500
question: what and why do you have to weight the axel and how do you do it? I carry very little in 5th to avoid extra weight.
kkjb48@aol.com

[cbari]

TV - 2004 Chevy 2500HD Silverado D/A 4X4 - full tank, hitch, 2 adults
Steering axle - 4670#
Rear axle unloaded - 3060#
Rear axle w/trailer - 5060#
GVWR - 9200#; Actual - 9360#

FW - 2001 Alumascape 30SKS - holding tanks empty
Axles - 7640#
Pin - 2000#
GVWR - 11,000#; Actual - 9640#

[F350KingRanch]

TV 2000 Ford F 250 GVWR = 8800 actual = 8645
Titanium 29/34 1 slide GVWR = 10802
Axle 8855 pin = 1490 Trailer Weight 10345

Weights by Weigh-it

[dhamblet]

TV - 2006 Dodge QuadCab 3500 4x4, SRW, LWB, Airlift bags, PacBrake. Real scaled weight with full fuel, hitch, DH-DW and misc. gear and trailer connected = 11,520lbs.

5ver – Dutchmen Victory Lane TH, 38.5ft, disk brakes, 16,400lbs with 1 Harley in garage.
Normal running TV & TH GCW weight is around 24,500 lbs, TV GCWR is 23,000lbs
Real Pin Weight= 3720 lbs

[F350KingRanch]

There is a full-timer from Arizona who weighs vehicles by using portable scales.
You drive an axle onto a pair of scales and keep going until you have TV and Trailer weights and pin weight.
When you have the weights he gives you a spreadsheet with the numbers and lets you know how safe you are.

[tabraha]

Got weighed while loaded this weekend. 2 adults 1 child (which I've come to the conclusion adds more associated weight than an adult!) and we were loaded coming back from a 1 month outing, full fresh water tank.

Tow Vehicle:
2005 F-350 DRW spec'd as in signature.
Steer Axle: 4850 rated 4340 loaded
Drive Axle: 9000 rated 6360 loaded
GVWR: 13000 rated 10900 loaded
GCWR: 23500 rated 20560 loaded

5th Wheel 2009 Bristol Bay 3420BH (36.5' triple-slide)
Weight: 11103 dry 13060 loaded
GVWR: 15000 rated 13060 loaded
Axles (2): 12000 rated 9660 loaded
Pin: 2440 dry 3400 loaded

Glad to know what the real numbers are now. Also, good to have something on record JIC!

[SmokinDiesel05]

TV / 05' Dodge QC Cummins
5er / 05' Holiday Rambler Savoy 29'

Steer / 4940
Drive / 5240
Trailer / 7240

Total / 17420

This was with half tank of fuel and 4 empty holding tanks .

[Bearman]

We were coming home from 2 weeks in the mountains. Water tank on trailer was empty (100 gal), water tank on deck deck of truck was empty (300 US gal). had 2 quads in garage of trailer, 1 quad was missing off of deck (800 lbs). Fuel station on trailer was empty (40 gal). Other than that we were full load when we weighed up.

Steering axle-- 9680 lbs- good for 11000 lbs

Drive Axle-- 13178 lbs- good for 23000 lbs

Trailer axles (3)-- 15510 lbs- good for 19500 lbs

Jeep (2 axles)-- 3278 lbs

TOTAL Weight-- 41646 lbs- good for 80,000 lbs MCGVW

[sanddunesaddict]

sanddunesaddict wrote:
TV 2000 GMC C6500
5er 2006 Fleetwood Gearbox 385fs2g

Rating / Scale
Steer Axle 11k / 6820
Drive Axle 19k / 5860
Vehicle w/o trailer 25950 / 12680
Never weighed the 5er empty

Loaded steer 7360
loaded drive 8720
Trailer Axle /14080

Combined 43150 / 30160

The hauler isnt even FULLY loaded yet.This was with a 1/3 tank of water,one propane tank full,genny tank 3/4 and fuel station full.
I had no food or clothes in trailer.
I am going to be WAY over on the trailer when loaded!!!!

Well I reweighed fully loaded and now its

steer axle 7500
Drive axle 9560
Trailer axle 15240
Total 32300

Total(steer & drive)truck weight increase 4380...This cant be my pin weight can it??
Total trailer weight 19620.Over gvw like normal

[nedmtnman]

We have a 2003 F-350 pulling a 38 ft Everest 5th wheel and I have not had a weight problem requiring air bags. I did run the rig across the scale to get loaded and empty weights. When pulling I run 50 lbs air in the front tires and 65 lbs in the rear. When empty I run 45 lbs front and 40 lbs rear according to the load chart I got. I guess it all depends on how much king pin weight you have and the load recommendations of the truck manufacturer. I have empty = 7000 ttl - 4060 front and 2940 rear. Pulling I am 21100 ttl = 13960 trailer = 4340 frt - 5880 rear king pin weight 3080.

[just5erit]

Here are my numbers:

2001 Chevy crew cab 6.0L 2x4 1500HD = 6,000 pounds

8528 30' Flagstaff Super Classic Lite, two slide, one super slide and a bunk slide = Loaded= 7,940

Truck and Trailer on the scales Loaded= 13,940