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Whats Your Real Weights? Truck and Trailer. The Real Deal

juzplanekrazy
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I don’t know if it’s been done before or not but I was thinking about keeping a running list of real truck weights by year and type, and trailer weights by brand, size and what the total combined weight is of each guys rig. I was hoping the info would be a help for guys wondering about what the real weights are for a certain type of truck and to keep track of the more popular brand 5th wheel trailers. Another thing that will come out of it will be to see just how many guys really know what they are towing and if they know what their weight capacities are.
I’m sure it will take some time to compile a list and it will grow as guys add there info but I’m hoping it will help the newer guys in the long run to be directed back over to this thread in the future.
I’ll keep the TV lists to mainly the big 3 and from ¾ ton and up and I’ll try to keep the 5ers in a group by real GVW, length, and then manufacture. Any ideas are welcome as long as it makes things easier. And only real information can be given, so no guessing allowed. Only guys that have scaled there rigs or are totally certain of the weights.
Let’s see if I can keep the format real simple to type down and that will make it simpler for guys to refer back to and to keep track of.
Here we go……

TV - 2006 Dodge Mega Cab 3500 4x4, real scaled weight with full fuel, hitch, DH-DW and misc. gear = 7,500lbs. TV GVWR is 10,200lbs
5ver – KZ New Vision TH 38ft 14,500lbs loaded GVW. GVWR is 18,000lbs
Normal running TV & TH GCW weight= 22,500lbs, TV GCWR is 23,000lbs
Real Wet Pin Weight=2,950lbs
2021 Dodge Ram Longhorn 4x4 Dually
2019 KZ Durango Gold 371
B & W Companion 25K
859 REPLIES 859

oklahomamike
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2012 Newmar X-Aire 40DSBR pulled by 2010 Dodge 3500
Loaded ready to go with fuel and water but no toys in garage.

Gross Trailer Weight 19,100
Pin Weight 3,980
Truck weight 9,200

Steer Axle 4,960
Drive Axle 8,540
Trailer Axle 14,800
Gross combined weight 28,300

j0hnburks
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2010 F250 Super Duty 6.4L Diesel

Scale weights
Truck plus trailer 15,920
Front axle 4500
Rear axle 4780
Trailer axle 6640
Truck 7860
Front axle 4480
Rear axle 3380
Truck with trailer attached 9280
Trailer 8060
Kingpin wt 1420
Pops250
2010 F250 Super Duty
H&S Mini-Maxx, S&B Air Box, Sinister EGR delete, 4" turbo back EPF/CAT delete, Bilstein shocks
50 gallon TransferFlow inbed fuel tank
38' Heartland Big Country fifth wheel

Dave_Monica
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DW-gray wrote:
Congratulations. I'm not sure, but depending on your specific model information, you could be borderline overweight for your truck. Consider reading "Before You Buy" article shown below. Tow safely.


No way...have the same camper. Our loaded pin weight is 1300lbs.

Congrats on the new camper...hope you enjoy it as much as we've enjoyed ours.

Dave
2010 Rockwood 8280WS
2008 F250 CC Lariat SB 6.8L V10

DW-gray
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beerandpeppers wrote:
Just bought a 2010 Rockwood Sig. Ulta Light 8280 ws with a sidewinder. Pick it up on the 21 June.

Mike - Ottawa On
2008 Ram 1500 Mega Cab with Super Springs and Pro Series 16 Dual Lock Jaw Hitch


Congratulations. I'm not sure, but depending on your specific model information, you could be borderline overweight for your truck. Consider reading "Before You Buy" article shown below. Tow safely.

http://free.fifthwheelst.com/before_you_buy.htm
Dave Gray

RV Safety Educator & Consultant

08 Dodge Ram 3500 4X4, Dually, 6.7L Diesel, 09 Heartland Cyclone 4012

beerandpeppers
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Just bought a 2010 Rockwood Sig. Ulta Light 8280 ws with a sidewinder. Pick it up on the 21 June.

Mike - Ottawa On
2008 Ram 1500 Mega Cab with Super Springs and Pro Series 16 Dual Lock Jaw Hitch

DW-gray
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bzzznesman wrote:
I have a Dodge Ram 2500 Mega Cab with a 5.7 Hemi and 3.7 gear(I think) and have been told I could tow from 8100 lbs. to 10,150 lbs. How do I find out what the real truth is? Is there any book or link I can access to find out what I can truly tow. Am in the market to purchase my first 5th wheel and would like to know how I can get one that is not going to burn up my engine or tear out the rear end of the pick up. Any help would be appreciated!!!!!


There is a very helpful website that has most of your answers including an article, Before You Buy That RV, Truck or Other Tow Vehicle.

Visit Fifth Wheel St.
Dave Gray

RV Safety Educator & Consultant

08 Dodge Ram 3500 4X4, Dually, 6.7L Diesel, 09 Heartland Cyclone 4012

oldbeek
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Go to Dodge.com/towing Lower left input all specs and get answer. EX: 2002 quad cab 5.9 auto Max carry gvw is 8800. That is the max truck weight. 14000 lb is max combo of trailer and truck. The curb wt on that truck is 6200 so subtract 6200 from 8800 and that is what your max pin wt can be. The gear ratio is on a sticker inside glove box.
1994 27sl Alpenlite with many mods, 2001 Dodge Cummins 2x4 3.54 Auto trans built shift kit and 2nd gear lock up mod. Mojave Green billet, triple disc low stall torque converter. Gauges and raptor 3/8inch fuel system. 12.5 mpg avg

bzzznesman
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I have a Dodge Ram 2500 Mega Cab with a 5.7 Hemi and 3.7 gear(I think) and have been told I could tow from 8100 lbs. to 10,150 lbs. How do I find out what the real truth is? Is there any book or link I can access to find out what I can truly tow. Am in the market to purchase my first 5th wheel and would like to know how I can get one that is not going to burn up my engine or tear out the rear end of the pick up. Any help would be appreciated!!!!!

Camps_with_Crit
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adeltaman wrote:
The weight information will be very helpful for those looking to purchase a new RV. I would like to see if Goodsam, TL or RV Net could create a directory for the large metro areas that lists locations where owners can have their rigs weighed properly. Does anyone know of such a listing?

Just do a web search of "CAT Scales", they are located at majority of truckstops and usually cost $10 or less to weigh at.
05 Freightliner Century with Smart Car on the back
2010 Spacecraft 44.5 ft with a fully stocked bar-room
The Critters: Boogie & Jack (2 great dogs)

adeltaman
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The weight information will be very helpful for those looking to purchase a new RV. I would like to see if Goodsam, TL or RV Net could create a directory for the large metro areas that lists locations where owners can have their rigs weighed properly. Does anyone know of such a listing?

oldbeek
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3:55 at 65 in D is 2550 rpm. Almost perfect. 65 in od is 1700 rpm. Nice for cruising unless headwind. Just got around to weighing it after 50,000 miles of towing it. Gets 12mpg average. Always thought it was heavier. Getting weighed gave me more peace of mind.
1994 27sl Alpenlite with many mods, 2001 Dodge Cummins 2x4 3.54 Auto trans built shift kit and 2nd gear lock up mod. Mojave Green billet, triple disc low stall torque converter. Gauges and raptor 3/8inch fuel system. 12.5 mpg avg

sirdrakejr
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I had a 1997 & 2002 Dodge CTD with the 3.55 gearing. I found it to be "too tall" for towing but downshifting lessened the pain when I hit the hills. Good luck. That looks like a good combo.
Frank
2011 Palomino Maverick 1000SLLB on a 2004 Dodge Quadcab CTD Ram3500 SRW long bed equipped with Timbren springs, Stable Load bump stops, Rickson 19.5" wheels/"G" range tires and a Helwig "Big Wig" rear anti sway bar.

oldbeek
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2001 dodge 5.9 a4 auto 3.55 gears, curb wt 6400, loaded wt 8200, 27sl Alpenlite axle wt 8700, total wt 16900. Pin wt is 1800 Trailer loaded + 100gal water
1994 27sl Alpenlite with many mods, 2001 Dodge Cummins 2x4 3.54 Auto trans built shift kit and 2nd gear lock up mod. Mojave Green billet, triple disc low stall torque converter. Gauges and raptor 3/8inch fuel system. 12.5 mpg avg

Tireman9
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jsal wrote:
phalynx wrote:
Just found out mine, trying to find where the weight is.....

TV 2007 Chevy CC D/A 4wd Dually with hitch, full of fuel, toolbox, 2 adults, 2 children, and dog. 8240lbs

5th Wheel -2007 KZ Sportsmen Sportster 37KGX3 - sticker weight dry 11,556. Sticker GVWR is 16,940. Actual scaled weight with all our clothes, food, etc and a golf cart, DRY!, 19,120. Sticker hitch weight 2940, actual 3520. I don't see a problem here. Looks normal. However the total weight on the axles is 15,600... that's 1,600 over the axle rating and 600 over the tire rating. I am at a loss. I hope it is scale error. I will be reweighing this weekend.

Total GCWR 27,220!!! Truck rated at 23,500. I have no idea where the weight is. I can only hope that the scale was wrong. We did not load 7500 lbs of gear in here. Not to mention the fact that all tanks were empty and I have a 110 gallon fresh tank.....


Not sure who Phalynx is but hoping the scales are wrong is not a good position to be in. There should be some state or county certification sticker / certificate available as truckers can be fined if they are found overweight so they have to have reliable scales.
Unless he weighed the trailer when new and empty there is no way to be certain of it's empty weight.
This is not a good situation.
40 years experience as tire Design & Quality engineer with focus on failed tire forensics.

avvidclif1
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DW-gray wrote:
avvidclif1 wrote:
Kenny3p0 wrote:
Here is my question, How are you determining your pin weight?
My reading was axel 1 4520 axel2 5940 axel 3 10520 gross 20980
05 ram 2500 drw 3.73 auto gcwr 21,000
09 keystone cougar 316qbs


You have to drive off the scale, go to somewhere on the lot and unhook. Then go back across the scale and ask for a re-weigh, doesn't cost anything on a CAT scale. Then compare the numbers on the truck axles. The differences are the pin weight. If the front axle drops 500 lbs and the rear 2000 then the pin weight is 2500. The trailer weight won't change if it's level on the truck. It don't know if the pin box is on the truck or it's on the front legs.


Usually, there is a $1.00 reweigh fee at CAT Scale at the same location of the original weigh. For the best "how to weigh" information, consider visiting Fifth Wheel St..
Clif & Millie
2009 Ford F350 SRW CC Lariat 6.4 Diesel
2015 Heartland Cyclone HD CY3418 Toy Hauler