Whats Your Real Weights? Truck and Trailer. The Real Deal

[juzplanekrazy]

I don’t know if it’s been done before or not but I was thinking about keeping a running list of real truck weights by year and type, and trailer weights by brand, size and what the total combined weight is of each guys rig. I was hoping the info would be a help for guys wondering about what the real weights are for a certain type of truck and to keep track of the more popular brand 5th wheel trailers. Another thing that will come out of it will be to see just how many guys really know what they are towing and if they know what their weight capacities are.
I’m sure it will take some time to compile a list and it will grow as guys add there info but I’m hoping it will help the newer guys in the long run to be directed back over to this thread in the future.
I’ll keep the TV lists to mainly the big 3 and from ¾ ton and up and I’ll try to keep the 5ers in a group by real GVW, length, and then manufacture. Any ideas are welcome as long as it makes things easier. And only real information can be given, so no guessing allowed. Only guys that have scaled there rigs or are totally certain of the weights.
Let’s see if I can keep the format real simple to type down and that will make it simpler for guys to refer back to and to keep track of.
Here we go……

TV - 2006 Dodge Mega Cab 3500 4x4, real scaled weight with full fuel, hitch, DH-DW and misc. gear = 7,500lbs. TV GVWR is 10,200lbs
5ver – KZ New Vision TH 38ft 14,500lbs loaded GVW. GVWR is 18,000lbs
Normal running TV & TH GCW weight= 22,500lbs, TV GCWR is 23,000lbs
Real Wet Pin Weight=2,950lbs

[Dave_Monica]

grizmt wrote:
'06 GMC 3500 CC Dually, 2010 Big Sky 340RLQ fully loaded for full time.
2230 lbs

2230lbs!! Heck, I could pull that with my old S10!
Just kidding...you're obviously missing a zero.

[grizmt]

'06 GMC 3500 CC Dually, 2010 Big Sky 340RLQ fully loaded for full time.
2230 lbs

[steelpony5555]

19200 lbs haulin butt across this great land of ours.

[Camps_with_Crit]

Full timer post here:
Truck total 14,320 with 6,280 on drive axle & 8,420 on steer axle GCWR 60,000
Trailer total 23,460 with 5,480 on pin & 17,980 on axles GVWR 24,000
Trailer empty 20,420 with 4,940 on pin & 15,480 on axles (cargo capacity 3,580)
Complete rig ready to roll with full fresh water & propane 37,780 with steer axle at 7,960 drive axle 11,840 and trailer axles (3) at 17,980
All axles are within their ratings and yes I can stop it with huge air brakes on truck & elect/hyd disks on all 6 trailer wheels.

[free_as_a_bird]

This is a great, very helpful thread.

Please indicate if you are full-time or not when posting your figures. Also,

How much of your weight is cargo? And how do your figures stack up against the mfr's CCC rating?

I would be interested to see if there is significant difference between full-timer cargo weight and not FT. And what are typical CCCs for FT-ing.

[ratfink09]

`06 GMC Duramax CC Dually at 10,840# with `09 3400RL Montana 5er hitched up, myself and wife, our Golden Retriever and 200# of fire wood. 21,300# GCWR.

[RVER]

2003 Truck Silverado 2500 HD Duramax EXT cab front axle is 4080# and rear with hitch in place 3080# and two people in truck with full tank of diesel TOTAL is 7160#s
With 34 ft Sunnybrook 34BWTS attached
Front is 4080#s
Rear is 5620#s
and trailer axle is 9620#s
So pin wt is 2460 Gross wt is 19,320#
The Silverado pulls this rig like there is nothing there.

[Grill_Sargeant]

Ours GCW is 16,600 fully loaded without the boat behind it. Probably close to 20,000 with the boat in tow. The window sticker from my truck says I can weigh 21,000 GCW

[B_W_M]

The max tow weight for the 03 Dodge 4+4 quad cab is 16.050 Truck weight is 9.760 the Truck and trailer on scales was 23.040-9.760= 13.290 this is good to go.

[sirdrakejr]

Don't turn this one into a "weight police " thread. It wont last after that happens.
Frank

[amfisher]

Ford 250 PSD 6.4 SD '08 4x4 Crew
total wt: 8550 ( two people, dog , some luggage, hitch)
GVW: 10,000
Pin wt: 2100
Total hitched : 10650 (truck fails here)

Cameo 34'
dry wt: 11,733
total wt: 14,000

Max fiver for this truck: 15,300
Truck payload: 2400
GCVW : 23,000
Truck also fails in pin wt-payload.

We are new to this Rv life. I allowed a salesman to convince me that I had the correct truck for the fiver we planned to purchase. In fact, we purchased one that was "lighter" than the one we originally planned to buy, and one of the lightest that Carriage makes. Our overall weight and pin weights are less than what appears to be a majority of fivers in the same length of fiver class. If we exceed the GVW ( ok with the GCWR : within the 23000) but fail in the other categories, what are the real safety ramifications?
If a majority of five drivers are also over their GVW limits, where are the GVW "police", and why don't we see more catastrophic accidents? After all, it is not so much a towing issue as it is a "stopping " issue. You would think that industry wide there would be some sort of listed recommendations for trucks and fifth wheel manufacturers. And you would think that more often the state police would periodically monitor fifth wheel drivers to check on weights, because it just might be a financial gold mine for them with fines and the like.
We now must consider our options, among which would be to purchase a one ton dually, or even a one/one-half dually. I am not certain about the latter, but it certainly would provide a much wider margin of safety. I am bewildered by it all at times, and wonder how many folks feel the same way.
Thanks for the opportunity to ask questions and "pontificate"! <>< al fisher

[B_W_M]

Tireman9 wrote:
BMW
Isn't the GCWR 23,000#?

I am having trouble understanding your weights.

YES i posted wrong weight it should had been 23.040+ or -

[sloman2001]

2009 Ford F-350 6.4PSD 4x4 SB SRW, 18K Superglide Hitch
2010 Keystone Cougar, Mountain Package, Polar Package Plus, Dinette Table & Chairs

When Weighed there were 330 lbs of occupants (me and the DW), the Superglide hitch, full 30 gals deisel, empty trailer but 60 lbs propane.

Truck Only (full deisel, 330 lbs of occupants, and 18K hitch)

Steer Axle Drive Axle GVWR
Rating 6,000 7,000 11,400
Actual 5,080 3,620 8,700

Buffer 920 3,380 2,700

Truck & Trailer as described above

Steer Axle Drive Axle Pin Wght Trlr Axle GCWR
Actual 5,160 5,180 1,560 7,680 18,020

Buffer 840 1,820 4,980

[marspec]

2008 F450 Pick Up
Ready to tow w/hitch, full fuel:
Right Front - 2450 Left Front - 2475
Right Rear - 2000 Left Rear - 2152

With Fiver:
Right Front - 2500 Left Front - 2500
Right Rear - 3350 Left Rear - 3650

Fiver:
Right Front - 3150 Left Front - 3175
Right Rear - 2700 Left Rear - 2925

Trailer Weight Total 14950 with pin weight of 2950
Combined Weight Truck/Trailer 23950

[John_Holveck]

I have a 2008 Ford F350 DRW King ranch. I weighed it soon after I bought it in 2008 and the weights empty were steer axle 4780lb Drive axle 3680lb gross weight 8460lb. I weighed it with my Newmar Cypress trailer yesterday (10-19-2009) and the weights were steer axle-4720lb Drive axle-6840lb Trailer axle-11700lb Gross weight-23260lb. According to my owners manual this truck is rated for a combined gross weight of 23500lb. My wife wasnt in the truck and ther were no groceries or clothes in the trailer but other that that it was pretty much ready for a trip. 1/4 tank water and full propane.