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10K hitch on a 2007 Sportscoach Elite...No Longer?

eric99
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Hi,

I'm not sure what's going on here but from all of the information I've seen the 2007 Sportscoach Elite 40QSL comes standard with a 10K hitch.

For some reason the Sportscoach I'm looking at only has a 5k hitch.

I'm being told by my dealer, CW, that they called Forest River (who bought out Coachmen) that it didn't come with a 10k hitch and they would not recommend putting one on. I find this hard to believe.

I emailed Danielle Davis at Forest River and gave her the coach's VIN. She said:

Hello Eric,

I'm sorry but I don't have anything with records to records on units built prior to 2008. Forest River bought out Coachmen in 2008 and did not buy the rights to the history so I have no way of looking this unit up.

Danielle Davis
Forest River Sales / Dispatch
Coachmen Plant 310
P: 574-825-8225

Yet my CW says when they gave Forest River the VIN the coach did not come with the 5k hitch.

Does anyone know for sure if a 10k hitch will work with this coach? If so, where can I get one and a ballpark price? I need to deduct this from what I'm paying for the Sportscoach.

Thanks!
Eric
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eric99
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jauguston wrote:
If they are still in business contact Hidden Hitch and purchase their 10,000# hitch. If you get that far I can give you all the numbers from the sticker on my hitch.

Jim


According to their website they only go up to 5k lbs.

jauguston
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If they are still in business contact Hidden Hitch and purchase their 10,000# hitch. If you get that far I can give you all the numbers from the sticker on my hitch.

Jim
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eric99
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Here's what I've been able to find. Help me check the arithmetic please.

I called Freightliner, gave them the VIN and they told me the chasis left their factory with a hitch receiver rated at 10k lbs. I have the BOM which supports their statement.

The GCWR is 42,000 lbs (gotten from rvweb.com). Other weights are taken from an FMCA magazine review which I quote:

The Elite's gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) is listed at 33,460 pounds. I weighed it at the local moving and storage scale with a full tank of fuel (100 gallons), a full tank of fresh water (103 gallons), and 50.6 gallons of LP gas. The unit tipped the scales at 29,300 pounds, which left an amazing 4,160 pounds for passengers and cargo. The front axle has a gross axle weight rating (GAWR) of 13,460 pounds, and the actual weight for this axle on my test coach was 10,560 pounds. The rear axle has a GAWR of 20,000 pounds, and the actual weight on the test coach was 18,360 pounds. The Elite is rated to tow 10,000 pounds and comes standard with a 10,000-pound receiver hitch.

42,000 - 29,300 = 12,700lbs available for towing, people and cargo.

Since it has a 5k hitch installed I can only assume the owner changed the hitch for some reason, unless he special ordered it with a 5k hitch. That seems illogical to me but....

So, to all of you towing experts out there, what would it take to have this 5k hitch removed and made into a 10k hitch? The receiver should still be attached? What's the cost? Could you please point me in the right direction for sources?

After all of this I'm beginning to wonder about the integrity of CW business manager. Why he would tell me it's ok to tow 8k lbs with a 5k hitch really made me wonder. Of course he retracted and said CW wouldn't sign up to that. Why, according to CW, Forest River's engineer strongly recommended that the coach really wouldn't support 10k also makes me wonder. I do hope I've missed something, or there's a misunderstanding somewhere and my wondering is unfounded.

jauguston
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We have a 2005 Sportscoach-Elite. It is on a Freightliner XC-R chassis. It has a Hidden Hitch brand 10,000# hitch. If you have the same chassis I see no reason you could not upgrade to the same hitch I have. The R on the chassis ID designates raised frame. The frame is above the storage compartments allowing pass through compartments.

Jim
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DSDP_Don
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"eric99".....You say the 2007 Elite comes with a 10K hitch and the "coach" you're looking at is a 5K. Can you clarify...is the coach you're looking at an Elite. Sportscoach made some really entry level coaches and then one nice coach, the Elite. I suspect all their other coaches are 5K hitches.
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Executive45
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Eric, there's more to towing capacity than the rating of a hitch. One cannot simply remove a 5k rated hitch and replace it with a 10k hitch and be safe. Other factors come into play such as frame stability, engine and transmission combos, weight issues etc. Much more research is needed on your part as to THIS particular coach before you can make an intelligent decision as to increasing the hitch capacity. I wouldn't want to plunk down my hard earned cash to later find out it was a mistake...just sayin...Dennis
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msturtz
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The easy way to figure out is to check the GCWR and GVWR against the dry weight. Generally if you don't exceed the GCWR or GVWR when fully loaded for a trip you can tow whatever is left for your GCWR. The hitch is only one part of the total system.
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