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Aintright
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Jan 13, 2016

1988 gulf stream 460 Ford motor battery charging problem

I have a 1988 Gulf Stream with a 460 Ford Motor, the chassis battery does not charge with the motor running. There are 3 solenoids on the firewall, I think they have something to do with the charging of the batteries, chassis and couch. The alternator looks like it is working, from what I can read on the voltage from the regulator. I cannot get to the Alternator to read the B terminal. I am hoping I can read the B terminal from the solenoids, but having trouble with how they are hooked up. I get 12 volts on the batteries when the motor is running, should be around 14. Thanks for any help you can give.
  • Thanks for replying. Yes, the start battery does not charge. I have found what I think is the Isolator, but it is not hooked up the way I have seem them hooked up. I just went out and looked at the setup, on the right side of the isolator I am getting 13.5 volts, I would say alternator voltage. ON the middle I a getting 12 volts, thinking it is battery and on the left side I am 12 volts. From what I have read about Isolators the center connection should be the alternator voltage. What does the battery disconnect switches do. If my chassis battery switch is in the off position, the starter will not engage. After I came inside I thought about the invertor with the trickle charge while the AC being plugged in. I need to go check the voltage with the AC unplugged. I know enough about MH electrical to make me dangerous. LOL I wish I understood as much as I know, or think I know.
  • Just to verify: You mean the chassis battery (used to start the engine), but not the house/coach battery (used to power the RV stuff)? If it's not charging, your alternator or associated circuitry is not working—there shouldn't be any solenoid between the alternator and the chassis battery. One possible problem on some vehicles is the charge idiot light burning out, though I have no idea if the Ford chassis is wired that way.

    If you mean the coach battery, typically there is an isolator of some sort, commonly implemented using a solenoid, that is intended to let the alternator charge the hose battery. These solenoids do sometimes fail or need cleaning, among various other problems. Sometimes also they have somewhat sophisticated controls that don't switch them in until after the chassis battery has been decently charged, though that's probably not the most common, particularly in the era you're talking about. There may also be fuses at one or both ends of the wiring or other typical electrical problems (corroded connections, loose wire terminals, etc).

    The simplest hookup is with the two terminals of the solenoid going to the two batteries, and the control coming off a line switched by the ignition. Often there's also a pushbutton that powers the solenoid as the "emergency start" feature, possibly connecting the control line to +12V from the house battery (rather than the chassis battery which presumably is drained if you're using the switch).

    Sometimes a diode-based isolator is used, which is basically just a high current rectifier; these I gather are not the most reliable, and inherently lead to a voltage drop due to the rectifier's forward voltage (about 0.6V or 0.7V for the usual silicon diodes).