2020 Mercedes Sprinter based RV's

[HawkTX]

Hey folks! It's been a while since I have posted. Sold by 2017 Winnebago View and tried the Class B craze for a while with a Coachmen Crossfit (no called BEYOND) and it was a great unit, but my wife and I need something bigger so we are looking at the Winnebago View again. I put about 25K miles on our last VIEW and it was flawless, but I was always scared about the sensors going out, DPF problems, finding the right diesel, etc. You know all the horror stories on these forums. While I never had one issue this was always in the back of my mind. Have they made any changes to these 2020's where these issues have been fixed or still same old things to worry about? We really love the really like the 24J floorplan. Last time we had the 24V. Hope everyone is doing great and looking forward to your thoughts on this. Thanks!

[RobertRyan]

DrewE wrote:

NoVa RT wrote:
Mercedes has come out with a gas Sprinter. Are any of the RV manufacturers using it yet?

Nope. Mercedes-Benz don't have the gas engine available on the cab and chassis Sprinter models; it's only on the lower-spec van bodies. It's also a pretty small engine for the vehicle, a 2.0L four cylinder gas engine, producing 188 horsepower at 5000 rpm. In a motorhome it would be a whiney slug.

They had one years ago for the Sprinterin the US but canned it

[Skid_Row_Joe]

HawkTX wrote:
Thanks everyone! Went up and looked at the unit today. It's super nice! Way nicer than our 2017 View we had. Lots of bells and whistles on that new 2020 chassis. Still deciding if this is "THE ONE" or a travel trailer we are looking at. Obviously a big difference in price. Also looked at the Minnie Winnie 25 footer with the Ford chassis w/the Triton engine. Time to think thru.

Who is the Winnebago dealer and which city? As you know you can't go wrong with a new Mercedes diesel Winnebago View.

[ghostrider421]

DrewE wrote:

NoVa RT wrote:
Mercedes has come out with a gas Sprinter. Are any of the RV manufacturers using it yet?

Nope. Mercedes-Benz don't have the gas engine available on the cab and chassis Sprinter models; it's only on the lower-spec van bodies. It's also a pretty small engine for the vehicle, a 2.0L four cylinder gas engine, producing 188 horsepower at 5000 rpm. In a motorhome it would be a whiney slug.

Yeah right - my first diesel was 150 hp/225# torque. These new gas engines are superior in just about every way.
https://www.mbvans.com/sprinter/gas-engine
https://www.mercedes-benz-vans.ca/en/sprinter/gas-vs-diesel
https://www.trucks.com/2018/01/25/2019-mercedes-sprinter-whats-known/

[DrewE]

NoVa RT wrote:
Mercedes has come out with a gas Sprinter. Are any of the RV manufacturers using it yet?

Nope. Mercedes-Benz don't have the gas engine available on the cab and chassis Sprinter models; it's only on the lower-spec van bodies. It's also a pretty small engine for the vehicle, a 2.0L four cylinder gas engine, producing 188 horsepower at 5000 rpm. In a motorhome it would be a whiney slug.

[NoVa_RT]

Mercedes has come out with a gas Sprinter. Are any of the RV manufacturers using it yet?

[MDKMDK]

ghostrider421 wrote:

HawkTX wrote:

midnightsadie wrote:
I,ve never had trouble finding diesel.

Not finding diesel fuel in general. Finding the right type.

What do you mean "right type". ULSD is about all that is sold in North America - exc off road in Mexico.

He meant B5 bio-diesel, or less. There are lots of diesel pumps with up to B20 (Minnesota, for example) in areas of the US, which carries a caveat from Mercedes regarding shorter oil/fuel filter change intervals, and a requirement for monitoring oil level more closely, or warranties may be voided. MB does not recommend B5 or greater, although someone said recently that they have relaxed that position on excessive bio-diesel use in their newer chassis/engine combo.

[ghostrider421]

HawkTX wrote:

midnightsadie wrote:
I,ve never had trouble finding diesel.

Not finding diesel fuel in general. Finding the right type.

What do you mean "right type". ULSD is about all that is sold in North America - exc off road in Mexico.

[ghostrider421]

Some of the newer vehicles are using the Ford V10 engines. I don't know real world mileage figures are to be believed - 12-15mpg?

[Olddud]

HawkTX wrote:
Thanks everyone! Went up and looked at the unit today. It's super nice! Way nicer than our 2017 View we had. Lots of bells and whistles on that new 2020 chassis. Still deciding if this is "THE ONE" or a travel trailer we are looking at. Obviously a big difference in price. Also looked at the Minnie Winnie 25 footer with the Ford chassis w/the Triton engine. Time to think thru.

Did you look at the View J?

[Grit_dog]

You basically can’t find the wrong diesel unless you’re in Mexico or pull up to the off road pump.
Regarding the emissions, there are literally millions of tier IV emissions engines in operation now, maybe 10s of millions. Yes you could have a problem but you’ll have a healthy warranty and a Triton motor could spit a spark plug too so buy what you want and don’t worry.

[HawkTX]

Thanks everyone! Went up and looked at the unit today. It's super nice! Way nicer than our 2017 View we had. Lots of bells and whistles on that new 2020 chassis. Still deciding if this is "THE ONE" or a travel trailer we are looking at. Obviously a big difference in price. Also looked at the Minnie Winnie 25 footer with the Ford chassis w/the Triton engine. Time to think thru.

[Oldtymeflyr]

Mercedes has a directive with respect to B20 diesel. It was issued in response to a Minnesota regulation requiring B20 in spring and summer month.

Mercedes has authorized B20 diesel fuel. Mercedes also has some operating recommendations. see Mercedes PSMKG-0614-BIOMIN (07/14)

We have had no trouble locating the "correct" diesel. We have never had to use B20.

[HawkTX]

midnightsadie wrote:
I,ve never had trouble finding diesel.

Not finding diesel fuel in general. Finding the right type.

[MDKMDK]

HawkTX wrote:
Hey folks! It's been a while since I have posted. Sold by 2017 Winnebago View and tried the Class B craze for a while with a Coachmen Crossfit (no called BEYOND) and it was a great unit, but my wife and I need something bigger so we are looking at the Winnebago View again. I put about 25K miles on our last VIEW and it was flawless, but I was always scared about the sensors going out, DPF problems, finding the right diesel, etc. You know all the horror stories on these forums. While I never had one issue this was always in the back of my mind. Have they made any changes to these 2020's where these issues have been fixed or still same old things to worry about? We really love the really like the 24J floorplan. Last time we had the 24V. Hope everyone is doing great and looking forward to your thoughts on this. Thanks!

I read all the same dire warnings on the various forums, and I've not had any problems with mine, bullet proof like you say.
The newer 3.0L V6 Turbo Diesel has supposedly been given the MB blessing to use diesel blends up to B20, although I've not seen it in writing anywhere. I think luvlabs mentioned it a while back after speaking to MB reps at an RV show.
I also have never had any issues finding diesel. I live in Canada, but do most of my long drives in the USA, and quite a bit in Texas when I can get away, and never a problem. My year doesn't have a B20 blessing, B5 max according to my OM, unless there's nothing else available, and that comes with a warning suggests shortening the oil/filter change intervals, and watching the oil levels more carefully, as the bio-d can seep into the oil pan, or so they say. If I do get something over B5 I just follow the instructions in the manual. So far no issues using > B5 on occasion.
I have a 24V and like the floorplan. I wasn't a fan of the bathroom sink being located outside the bathroom, in the 24J.
What the newer chassis and designs have done is fix a lot of the simple little shortcomings of the prior model years. They've added a lot of convenience features to the 2020 models.
I listed most of the upgrades in this thread....See posts number 5 and 6.
https://www.sprinter-source.com/forum/showthread.php?t=74404
The show stopper for me buying a new 2020 model was the cab over isn't deletable. We don't care for the overhang over the cab, which we deleted when we ordered our 2018 24V. Until WGO allows the cab over to be deleted, we'll stick with ours. :C