another blown goodyear

[traveylin]

Five weeks ago going to New Orleans we blew a front tire and I had planned to replace the remaining tires upon return to Corpus Christi. Got about 15 miles from home yesterday and an inside passenger rear tire blew. And was able to get son to bring spare to change by side of road. The date of manufacture on the side of the tires is June 2010. That means 2 out of 6 Goodyear 670 rv tires had sidewall blow outs at 5 years and 4 months from date of manufacture. Message is do not for serious safety failure exceed 4.5 years service life on Goodyear tires.

[Blaster_Man]

JackMS, JMHO, but you are really pushing your luck.

[Dachristianman]

JackMS wrote:
OK, I'll probably get flamed hard for this but I can take it. 3 of my tires, which are GY G169's, are the original with date codes in 2004. One on the rear got replaced after a piece of road debris got stuck through the sidewall. I replaced the steers last summer before a trip because the posts on here about tire age got me worried. The tires were inspected inside and out and "looked" perfect.

I have only 18,000 miles on the coach. It sat on dealers lot for a year before I bought it. I know they take great care of the tires, just like the batteries. I religiously check pressure every 6 months whether it needs it or not. I do hit them with a stick before I drive it. I never cover them, park in the south MS sun on any surface where I am and let them sit in one place a month or 2 at a time until I drive it for it's regular exercise. The 2 steer tires are on a drop deck trailer now hauling freight to oil fields and that has been over a year now.

I exaggerate some but not a lot. I will probably keep the other three tires until I have a problem with one of them. I got 6 extra years beyond what some say is time to change tires and about 5 on the 2 steers. I know I'm taking a risk and people are gonna say I am endangering all the people around me. Maybe, maybe not

Ok. Flame on

I'm not going to flame you, but the damage that a blowout will do to your motorhome is not worth the risk (to me anyhow). I can't see risking thousands of dollars of damage to the body to run a tire that long, and that doesn't even take into account the risk you run if/when you have a blowout. I hope they last you another 10 years, but I wouldn't run them that long.

[frankdamp]

When we bought our RV, it was 8 years old and it still had the OEM tires from the 9-year-old chassis build date. They were GYs, on 19.5 rims.

On the way home from picking the rig up from the seller (private sale 30 miles from home), I was so ticked off at the noise and harshness of the GY tires, I stopped at the Schwab store in town and got them organised to get me a set of 6 Toyos. Two days later the new Toyos were installed. Their mold date was only 6 weeks earlier than installation.

Compared to the old GYs, the ride was much quieter. Since they were new, I expected the ride to be smoother, but I was surprised how good it was.

Since there are lots of Schwab stores in this part of the world, and their prices are very competitive, we've been their customers since the mid-1970's, when we came back to Washington State from a 3-year stay in Virginia.

[JackMS]

OK, I'll probably get flamed hard for this but I can take it. 3 of my tires, which are GY G169's, are the original with date codes in 2004. One on the rear got replaced after a piece of road debris got stuck through the sidewall. I replaced the steers last summer before a trip because the posts on here about tire age got me worried. The tires were inspected inside and out and "looked" perfect.

I have only 18,000 miles on the coach. It sat on dealers lot for a year before I bought it. I know they take great care of the tires, just like the batteries. I religiously check pressure every 6 months whether it needs it or not. I do hit them with a stick before I drive it. I never cover them, park in the south MS sun on any surface where I am and let them sit in one place a month or 2 at a time until I drive it for it's regular exercise. The 2 steer tires are on a drop deck trailer now hauling freight to oil fields and that has been over a year now.

I exaggerate some but not a lot. I will probably keep the other three tires until I have a problem with one of them. I got 6 extra years beyond what some say is time to change tires and about 5 on the 2 steers. I know I'm taking a risk and people are gonna say I am endangering all the people around me. Maybe, maybe not

Ok. Flame on

[Flanz]

rgatijnet1 wrote:
Basically anyone else's experience with their tires means nothing to what your tires will do on your RV. Everyone treats their tires differently altho on this forum EVERYONE always checks their tire pressure at least once every hour and more often sometimes. As they use fuel, they adjust their tire pressure. They never hit any pot holes or curbs, and they never exceed 55 MPH. At least this is what they tell the tire store employee when they are trying to get reimbursed for their tire when they fail. :B
In all of my years of RVing, I can count on one hand the number of RV'rs that I have seen actually checking and adjusting their tire pressure before hitting the road in the morning.
I have talked with some people that have the TPMS and some never touch their tires until the alarm goes off and some go ahead and start driving in the morning with their tire pressure showing too low on their TPMS with the claim that the pressure will go up once they drive a few miles.
I've had Goodyear, Michelin, and even the Firestone tires that caused problems on some SUV's. I guess I have been fortunate because I've never had a blowout on any RV that I have owned. My last flat tire was from a small hole in the sidewall caused by my tire chains.

X2 - I too have NEVER seen anyone check pressure in a campground.

Prior to departure I'll check ALL fluids, outside tranny, that gets checked on the way in. I'll also check all tires. Even if I had a TPMS I would still check and adjust my tires.

Getting ready to take the HD out with the bride. Just checked the tires, air shocks, and the oil. Do it prior to any trip on any vehicle. Outside 0f the cars, they get checked on Sunday morning with my coffee....

So, I'll agree with you on this, people will complain about anything that cost them money and I'll bet 50% of the people here don't do any type of pre-departure check.....

-paul

[rgatijnet1]

Basically anyone else's experience with their tires means nothing to what your tires will do on your RV. Everyone treats their tires differently altho on this forum EVERYONE always checks their tire pressure at least once every hour and more often sometimes. As they use fuel, they adjust their tire pressure. They never hit any pot holes or curbs, and they never exceed 55 MPH. At least this is what they tell the tire store employee when they are trying to get reimbursed for their tire when they fail. :B
In all of my years of RVing, I can count on one hand the number of RV'rs that I have seen actually checking and adjusting their tire pressure before hitting the road in the morning.
I have talked with some people that have the TPMS and some never touch their tires until the alarm goes off and some go ahead and start driving in the morning with their tire pressure showing too low on their TPMS with the claim that the pressure will go up once they drive a few miles.
I've had Goodyear, Michelin, and even the Firestone tires that caused problems on some SUV's. I guess I have been fortunate because I've never had a blowout on any RV that I have owned. My last flat tire was from a small hole in the sidewall caused by my tire chains.

[Ductape]

jerseyjim wrote:
Brand new tires are ALWAYS "smooth as silk.

Jim, I had to have my GY shaved to make them round.

At the first repair or hint of tire trouble I will replace them all with another brand.

[10forty2]

I've researched the RV tire thing quite a bit as well, and quite frankly, although there are a few isolated reports, the older Goodyear tires that used to be sold as RV tires are the only ones that come up with lawsuits and other reports of outright failure. I am running GY G647 19.5s. I had one of the older model GY RV tires that was on my coach when I bought it and it outright blew. Was that because it was that model tire? Or was it because it was a 10 year old tire that I failed to check the date codes on before I bought the coach? Probably the latter. I replaced them all with G647s and about a month later I had a tread separation on one of the new tires. Coincidence? Most likely. It was just a bad tire...it happens. I don't' think it's an industry standard to make bad RV tires so Goodyear can pay out claim after claim for failed tires. They made it right with me and my insurance company and I still have Goodyears on my RV. Am I completely anal-retentive about checking them before and monitoring them during a trip? Absolutely!

Look up any tire manufacturer and I think you'll see multiple reports of them failing. They make millions of tires each year...there's got to be some that fail...right? And those are the ones that we hear about.

[Kaz]

I hate posts like this--they scare me to death. I know there's no way to do a statistically valid assessment of whether there is or is not a problem with Goodyear G670 tires based on a small sample of one-off experiences, so I checked around. That doesn't help much either. I found this from a plaintiff's law firm:

Goodyear makes the G670 RV in 2 sizes. The larger tire, the 295/80, is made by Goodyear at its plant in Buffalo, N.Y. The other size, the 275/70 is made by Goodyear at its plant in Danville, Va. The vast majority of the failures our lawyer’s know of are occurring with the 295/80 made at the Dunlop plant in Buffalo, N.Y. Most of the failures with the 670 made in Buffalo are occurring with tires that are approximately five years old and have signs of accelerated aging and belt edge failures due these tires running too hot.

More information on the firm's website: http://www.jerebeasleyreport.com/2014/09/more-problems-with-goodyear-rv-tires/.

Another legal report had this:

Ammons added that there were over 25 lawsuits involving the tire's use on Class A motor homes pending nationwide.

Again, more information on the source website: http://www.law360.com/articles/34480/goodyear-must-turn-over-docs-in-faulty-tire-case. (I'm not sure if you can access this article without a legal subscription.)

I'm not sure what that portends for my 245/70R19.5.

I did a quick check and didn't find anything similar for Michelins, but I haven't done anything thorough.

Whatever the risk, my G670s will be coming up on 4.5 years in June next year, right before I leave on a 2-1/2 month, 6000 mile trip. Not sure what I'm going to do, except to be fanatical about checking for signs of heat-related tire problems.

Ugh,
Skip

[slickest1]

I have never been a Goodyear fan, but I just last winter replaced a set of Goodyear 295 75 22.5 tires that were 9 years old. I never had a problem with them.

[chuckftboy]

You guys depress me. Just purchased a brand new HR 38DBT this afternoon, pick it up next Friday. 22.5 Goodyears all around. I'm a Michelin guy but it seems Freightliner does Goodyears. I'll report back if these tires don't work out for me.

[moisheh]

GY 670's should be taken off the market. Worst tire ever made for an RV.

Moisheh

[Bill_Satellite]

J-Rooster wrote:

Bill.Satellite wrote:
Interesting post right above the Michelin topic. Dumped the GY's on my Jeep and dumped the Goodrich on my RV. Replaced both with Michelin and I simply could not be happier.

B.F. Goodrich tires are made by the Michelin Tire Company.

Many companies make many levels of products. I have not a bad word to say about my Michelins.

[randallb]

My wife recently had a blow out that included a punctured rim while driving our Flex. She never saw what hit the tire. She just heard it hit. Sometimes things get thrown across the road and people run over them. Other times things are just laying in the road and people do not see them and the tire goes flat because of the impact. Some times it is just bad luck and people run over things.
Randy