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Diesel Fuel Additive During Winter Storage

janstey58
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Hi All, This is my first year of storing our 2015 Discovery 40E DP with a full tank of diesel fuel in the Midwest. What do you seasoned DP owners do in this situation in regard to fuel additives, especially for anti-algae protection? I found some info on-line that Cummins states additives are not needed and it may void an active warranty if used. I have also heard horror stories from one owner about algae problems causing big $$$ repairs. Comments? Thx, Jeff
Jeff and Kim
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2012 Ford Escape Limited Toad
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janstey58
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Find the matrix on the label, it tells more.
Jeff and Kim
2015 Fleetwood Discovery 40E
Freightliner Chassis 380HP DP
2012 Ford Escape Limited Toad

wvabeer
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janstey58 wrote:
wvabeer wrote:
That's what I bought. $27 for 16oz but takes care of 300 gallons. three winter storages for me.


You might re-read the instructions, it actually only takes an ounce or two for regular maintenance to keep algae from growing. The larger dose is to kill an existing algae issue.

I never saw that part. This is what I saw.

To control the growth of problem microorganisms associated with the fuel.
In General Use: Add Bio Kleen to storage tanks or fuel tanks for control of microbial growth in diesel oil, fuel oil, gasoline or kerosene. Treatment may be performed by slug dosage or by intermittent metering to maintain a concentration of 135-1,000 ppm of Bio Kleen.
TREATMENT RATIOS
(IN OUNCES)
BIO KLEEN BIOCIDE DOSE SHOCK TREATMENT PPM IN FUEL (APPROX) MAINTENANCE TREATMENT PPM IN FUEL (APPROX)
1 Ounce 20 Gallons 390 55 Gallons 142
16 Ounces 320 Gallons 390 880 Gallons 142
128 Ounces (1 Gallon) 2,500 Gallons 400 7,000 Gallons 142

In A Fuel-Treatment Pre-Mix: Bio Kleen may be mixed with other fuel additive for addition to fuel. The end user must add sufficient Bio Kleen to the pre-mix to provide 135-1,000 ppm of Bio Kleen in the treated fuel.
Maybe I missed it.
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janstey58
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wvabeer wrote:
That's what I bought. $27 for 16oz but takes care of 300 gallons. three winter storages for me.


You might re-read the instructions, it actually only takes an ounce or two for regular maintenance to keep algae from growing. The larger dose is to kill an existing algae issue.
Jeff and Kim
2015 Fleetwood Discovery 40E
Freightliner Chassis 380HP DP
2012 Ford Escape Limited Toad

wvabeer
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mowermech wrote:
wvabeer wrote:
janstey58 wrote:
This is the only product I can find that will not void warranties and takes care of algae:

http://powerservice.com/psp_product/bio-kleen-diesel-fuel-biocide/

That's what I bought. $27 for 16oz but takes care of 300 gallons. three winter storages for me.


https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/4-_2-Nitrobutyl_morpholine#section=Agrochemical-Information

That is what 81% of Bio-Kleen is, according to the Safety Data Sheet.
I think I will continue to not use that kind of poison in my fuel.

I'll be sure not to get any on me. That stuff is pretty nasty. Thanks for the heads up.
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mowermech
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wvabeer wrote:
janstey58 wrote:
This is the only product I can find that will not void warranties and takes care of algae:

http://powerservice.com/psp_product/bio-kleen-diesel-fuel-biocide/

That's what I bought. $27 for 16oz but takes care of 300 gallons. three winter storages for me.


https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/4-_2-Nitrobutyl_morpholine#section=Agrochemical-Information

That is what 81% of Bio-Kleen is, according to the Safety Data Sheet.
I think I will continue to not use that kind of poison in my fuel.
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wvabeer
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janstey58 wrote:
This is the only product I can find that will not void warranties and takes care of algae:

http://powerservice.com/psp_product/bio-kleen-diesel-fuel-biocide/

That's what I bought. $27 for 16oz but takes care of 300 gallons. three winter storages for me.
1999 Dutch Star DP3884
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janstey58
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This is the only product I can find that will not void warranties and takes care of algae:

http://powerservice.com/psp_product/bio-kleen-diesel-fuel-biocide/
Jeff and Kim
2015 Fleetwood Discovery 40E
Freightliner Chassis 380HP DP
2012 Ford Escape Limited Toad

Passin_Thru
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I put in 1/2 gallon of Power Service in the white bottle when I fuel and leave it sit. Diesel doesn't usually cause a problem over that short a period.

wvabeer
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wvabeer wrote:
I saw an ole buddy that is a heavy equip mech. at the NAPA he said to use the Clear-Diesel Fuel & Tank Cleaner for storage. I didn't need anything for gel fuel if I wasn't running in the winter.

I read on this that he recommended but it did not say anything about biocide, its only a stabilizer. There is a formula that does address this. I'll take this back and get the bio clean.
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wvabeer
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I saw an ole buddy that is a heavy equip mech. at the NAPA he said to use the Clear-Diesel Fuel & Tank Cleaner for storage. I didn't need anything for gel fuel if I wasn't running in the winter.
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wvabeer wrote:
I'll just hope for natural convection, I can't shake it as its on it's levers. I can't start it, the batteries are removed. I cannot think of a way to agitate it.


AND a note to those 'newbies' reading this post --- ASK BEFORE you put her in storage... ๐Ÿ™‚ ..Dennis
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janstey58 wrote:
This is what I have ordered from O'Rielly and will be pouring into my full diesel tank today:

http://powerservice.com/psp_product/bio-kleen-diesel-fuel-biocide/


That is the stuff you need.
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janstey58
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This is what I have ordered from O'Rielly and will be pouring into my full diesel tank today:

http://powerservice.com/psp_product/bio-kleen-diesel-fuel-biocide/
Jeff and Kim
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Freightliner Chassis 380HP DP
2012 Ford Escape Limited Toad

wvabeer
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jplante4 wrote:
SidecarFlip wrote:
down home wrote:
I use the CAT brand biocide additive when I can get it.
I use another brand, that I don't remember the name of from a local diesel shop.
They are both about 32-39.00 bottle of 32 oz. One oz per ten gallons, I think but don't quote me.
It is a terrific idea, today, when there is no sulfur, to amount to anything in diesel. If you use BioDiesel it is absolutely a necessity. Basically cooking oil the microbes really like it with a bit of moisture or not.
Power Service etc I cannot see anything in the ingredients about any real biocide in it. I look anytime we stop for a bit for what they have on the shelves of Loves, or Fyin J etc. Nothing worth my money.
EPA doesn't want us using it.


Power Service diesel additive is a Cetane improver only. If it was a biocide or contained any chemical lethal to microbes in fuel, it would have to be labelled as such and it's not.

I have used the CAT biocide before but it's hard to get whereas the Power Kleen is readily available.

I also use the CAT fuel additive when I can find it. It's hard to find as well.

One look on the back label tells you right away if it is indeed a biocide. It will have all sorts of warnings about disposal of the empty container, inhalation hazards and all that stuff the government requires,,,


That link I provided shows 5 Power Service products, and a biocide is one of them.

I'll stop by NAPA and see what they have.
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2012 Cherokee 39L destination
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