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how does the plumbimg work in a rv?

hounddogboy
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allow me to clarify this better one last time.

and if that one ridiculous thread just below i made could be deleted?

anyway, i am now starting to look into buying my first rv.
what i would like are some tips on how to keep it maintained the easiest and most cost efficient way with the plumbing.

i am not sure if i will buy new, or used yet.

i would like to learn something off the net, before i go to a rv lot and talk to some salespeople. i don't know much at all about rv's, the most i have done is drive a u-haul truck.
i also plan to rent one first to learn about them, and see what that's like. but i want to avoid any problems with the plumbing in case i am stuck with no help somewhere strange and new.

do all rv's use a septic tank? or is there another alternative type system inside rv's these days?

do you handle the draining yourself? or are there places who provide that service?

how difficult is it would you say to drain yourself?

what kind of chemical brand names do you recommend? as i heard you need them.

how often would you estimate it be drained for 2 adults using the rv? or is there some kind of meter that tells you?

does the toilet, shower and sinks all drain into one tank?

i would like to know about as many con's as possible, and tips on how to avoid these con's of the plumbing.
that's all for now. i probably will have follow up questions.
thanks for any help.
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Johno02
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In general, RV plumbing systems work very well. However there are rules, and there are RULES! be careful know, what you are doing, avoid shortcuts, and you should be OK.
Noel and Betty Johnson (and Harry)

2005 GulfStream Ultra Supreme, 1 Old grouch, 1 wonderful wife, and two silly poodles.

traveylin
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Much ado about a gravity situation

hipower
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luv2rv53 wrote:
I have a question. Our kitchen sink drain is very slow. Is it okay to use drano type products with holding tanks. If not any suggestions on how to open the drain?


We've used them when on a full hookup site or at home where we can drain the hoding tanks soon after use. So far (20+ years and three different coaches) no apparent problems as a result.

luv2rv53
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I have a question. Our kitchen sink drain is very slow. Is it okay to use drano type products with holding tanks. If not any suggestions on how to open the drain?

hounddogboy
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i guess when i get to a campground, i will see how a dump station there works so people don't smell it, on a hot summer day.

thanks

2gypsies1
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Yes, there are laws. You don't just dump them anywhere. Most campgrounds have a dump station within the campground. That's where you go if you don't have a full hookup site (water/electric/sewer). If you have a full hookup site then you can dump right from your campsite. However, ALWAYS use a dump hose, don't just open the valve and hope for the best. ๐Ÿ˜ž If done correctly there should absolutely be no spillage. If so, you need to clean it up thoroughly.

If the campground doesn't have facilities for dumping, some rest areas along the interstate do and some fuel stations do, especially Flying J's or Pilot.

If you can't find anything then usually a nearby campground will let you pull in and use their dump station but most often they'll charge you to do so.

Just remember to be a responsible RVer and use proper dump stations. Never dump elsewhere.

Google "RV dump stations" and there are sites that will give you a good list for use as traveling.
Full-Timed for 16 Years
.... Back in S&B Again
Traveled 8 yr in a 40' 2004 Newmar Dutch Star Motorhome
& 8 yr in a 33' Travel Supreme 5th Wheel

hounddogboy
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thanks for the info everyone

i also would like to know where do you dump your tanks out at?
are there laws about where you must do this, and where you can not?
especially for the black tank.

thanks again.

2gypsies1
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When using the toilet be sure to using a full bowl of water when flushing solids and go easy on toilet paper usage and buy a brand that breaks down easily like one made for septic tank usage. Big things happen when you don't use enough water - like not being able to get the black tank empties completely when you are dumping. Water, water, water! ๐Ÿ™‚ Nothing else goes into the black tank except toilet paper. If you need to remind others, post a sign stating this. It's very important.

We never use an additive to the black tank and don't have odors. Did I say just water, water, water? That alone will break down the toilet paper and solids. We've full-timed for 16 years and that means using and dumping our tanks constantly. No problems.

Always have at least 3/4 to full black tank before dumping. It takes a big swoosh to get everything out. If you find you're not filling the black tank, use a dishpan for dishwashing and empty it into the toilet. Or go outside for a bucket or two of water and empty it into the toilet just before dumping. It's recommended that you also have 3/4 to full grey tank before dumping, too. That way you'll have a good amount going through your sewer hose to rinse out the hose. You'll most likely find that you'll fill the grey water tank before the black tank with showers, etc.

Dumping is a easy process but scary at first. Always use disposable gloves. We buy them at WalMart by the box. Just don't get distracted from what you're doing and make sure your hose connection is tightly secured. Dump your black tank first and then the grey tank. This way, the soapy dish/shower water will rinse out your hose good. No need for additional rinsing. That'll do the job. If buying a used RV do yourself a favor and buy a brand new sewer hose. Don't rely on the one already in the RV. Also, buy a very heavy duty one. Don't skimp on cost. The cheapest ones easily get holes in them and you definitely won't like the outcome from a ruptured hose.

As far as how often you need to dump the tanks it all depends on the sizes of your holding tanks. Every RV is different. You'll soon be able to judge when you'll need to dump even if your monitors aren't working accurately and many times this is a problem with the monitors. It's a given unless you have monitors attached to the outside of the tanks. The ones inside the tanks get cacked with stuff and fail to register accurately.

Don't use your grey tank as a garbage disposal. Don't scrape dishes into it, no coffee grounds and no grease. Take a used napkin or paper towel and wipe dishes into wastecan before washing.

If you don't have full hookups at your campsite (water/electric/sewer) then you will need to conserve your water usage (and be sure to tell guests visiting you, too). Don't leave the faucets run. For showers wet down, turn off the shower, soap up, turn on the shower to rinse quickly. Same for washing hands and brushing teeth. For dishes rinse quickly. You'll quickly get the hang of it and you'll love your RV! Good luck!!
Full-Timed for 16 Years
.... Back in S&B Again
Traveled 8 yr in a 40' 2004 Newmar Dutch Star Motorhome
& 8 yr in a 33' Travel Supreme 5th Wheel

bsinmich
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How lonng can they last. My DW & I like to go to a State Park that is near a couple of Granddaughters and a Great grandson. We can stayn a week with the tanks in our MH, taking showers every day and never using the public faciliity. We have learned to be miserly with water and we have large tanks. On our first MH, a '76 class C we had a water tank that held about 12 gal. and 1 holding tank that took everything. Our rig is set up so the dump hose is always connected and has it's own compartment for storage. We dump the black tank first and then close that valve, then dump the grey water to flush out the hose before storing. Dumping can take 10 minutes because there is a lot to dump sometimes. I always use rubber gloves because it is not only our dump but everyone elses in the CG.
1999 Damon Challenger 310 Ford

Johno02
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Don't ever thank "that could never happen to me". You WILL have an "accident" at a dump station, but most of us don't make the mistake more than once, we hope.
Noel and Betty Johnson (and Harry)

2005 GulfStream Ultra Supreme, 1 Old grouch, 1 wonderful wife, and two silly poodles.

gbopp
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Again, welcome to the forum hounddogboy. Your second post is making more sense.
one option is to use the search block. Type in your question, 'plumbing', 'holding tanks', 'maintenance', etc..
If you can't find the answer to your question, just ask in a post.
The plumbing is pretty much what is used in a house, plastic pipes.
As mentioned before, it's not a septic tank. It's a holding tank.
There is usually one tank for black water (sewer) and gray water, (sink and showers).
You also have a fresh water tank.
Obviously, as you use water the fresh water tank will empty and the holding tanks will fill.
Adding fresh water and emptying the holding is a realtively simple process.
Do a lot of reading and ask questions, you'll learn quickly.

JimM68
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okhmbldr wrote:
Watch the movie "RV" with Robin Williams. Pay close attention to the scene where he empties the holding tanks.


My all time favorite scene in any movie!
Jim M.
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okhmbldr
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Watch the movie "RV" with Robin Williams. Pay close attention to the scene where he empties the holding tanks.

powderman426
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Good info in the two posts above. First guy had it right and the second added info on dumping but failed to mention to rinse your hose well before storing or you may get odors. NO chemicals needed as its only a holding tank and if everything is working properly you will get no odors. One caviet is never flush the toilet while fan is running.
Ron & Charlotte
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I started with nothing and I still have most of it left

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