Lenght of RV and trailer

Am I kidding??? I don't understand your question and what you think I'm kidding about. I was questioning what the law would allow.

msmith1199 wrote:

mowermech wrote:
Reciprocity applies to licensing, registration, and insurance.
HOWEVER, just because Montana says my ATVs are street legal, and gives me license plates for them, does NOT mean that I can drive them in, let's say, Nevada, where I have been told that only side-by-side UTVs can be street legal.
In Montana a truck/trailer/trailer combination can be 75 feet long, and the first trailer does not have to be a fifth wheel hitch, but that does NOT mean I can drive that combination to Spokane! Truck/trailer/trailer/trailer combinations are not legal in Montana.
In Montana, the tires can stick out beyond the fender flares, but in Moab, Utah, I would get a ticket. I knew a guy it happened to!

Now there's something I never did get a good answer to. Some states do allow several types of off road vehicles to be registered for street use. For example quads like you mentioned, and I know in Arizona you can make sand rails street legal. California, as far as I know, you can't make those street legal. But I've never come across a street legal in AZ sand rail that was in California so the issue never came up.

Are you kidding? With all the heavy traffic we have already, that is all we would need for a quad to be added to the traffic here in California.:S

mowermech wrote:
Reciprocity applies to licensing, registration, and insurance.
HOWEVER, just because Montana says my ATVs are street legal, and gives me license plates for them, does NOT mean that I can drive them in, let's say, Nevada, where I have been told that only side-by-side UTVs can be street legal.
In Montana a truck/trailer/trailer combination can be 75 feet long, and the first trailer does not have to be a fifth wheel hitch, but that does NOT mean I can drive that combination to Spokane! Truck/trailer/trailer/trailer combinations are not legal in Montana.
In Montana, the tires can stick out beyond the fender flares, but in Moab, Utah, I would get a ticket. I knew a guy it happened to!

Now there's something I never did get a good answer to. Some states do allow several types of off road vehicles to be registered for street use. For example quads like you mentioned, and I know in Arizona you can make sand rails street legal. California, as far as I know, you can't make those street legal. But I've never come across a street legal in AZ sand rail that was in California so the issue never came up.

Reciprocity applies to licensing, registration, and insurance.
HOWEVER, just because Montana says my ATVs are street legal, and gives me license plates for them, does NOT mean that I can drive them in, let's say, Nevada, where I have been told that only side-by-side UTVs can be street legal.
In Montana a truck/trailer/trailer combination can be 75 feet long, and the first trailer does not have to be a fifth wheel hitch, but that does NOT mean I can drive that combination to Spokane! Truck/trailer/trailer/trailer combinations are not legal in Montana.
In Montana, the tires can stick out beyond the fender flares, but in Moab, Utah, I would get a ticket. I knew a guy it happened to!

I found that Texas actually has a consolidated list of reciprocal agreements by state. It covers licensing, registration, and equipment rules--for both commercial and non-commercial vehicles and operators. The listings are similar, but not identical. For instance, dealers and manufacturers in Alabama have reciprocity with Texas, but dealers and manufacturers in Alaska do not.

Here's Alabama's listing as an example:

ALABAMA
Motor Vehicle Division
P. O. Box 327620
Montgomery, Alabama 36132-7620
Tel. (334) 242-9000
(Member of the International Registration Plan)
PRIVATE PASSENGER AND RECREATIONAL VEHICLES
Visitors may operate under Alabama plates for the length of time the plates are valid.
Establishment of domicile or temporary place of abode, or gainful employment for 30 days is
deemed residence and requires immediate registration. No reciprocity to salesmen while using
the vehicle to transport or deliver merchandise.
TRUCKS, TRUCK TRACTORS
Any vehicle, except recreational vehicles, vehicles displaying restricted plates, city pick up and
delivery vehicles, buses used in transportation of chartered parties, and government-owned
vehicles, used or intended for use in two or more member jurisdictions that allocate or
proportionally register vehicles and is used for the transportation of persons for hire or designed,
used or maintained primarily for the transportation of property and:
1. is a power unit having two axles and a gross vehicle weight or registered gross vehicle
weight in excess of 26,000 pounds or 11,793.401 kilograms; or
2. is a power unit having three or more axles, regardless of weight; or
3. is used in combination, when the weight of such combination exceeds 26,000 lbs. or
11,793.401 kilograms gross vehicle weight
must be apportionally registered with Texas prior to entering Texas. Each such vehicle, as
proof of being apportionally registered, must have a cab card in the vehicle reflecting that
apportion fees have been paid to Texas; and the vehicle must have been issued an Apportioned
License Plate. Apportionally registered vehicles are granted full interstate and intrastate
reciprocity.
Trucks and truck tractors, and combinations of vehicles having a gross vehicle weight of 26,000
pounds or 11,793.401 kilograms or less, and buses used in transportation of chartered parties
may be proportionally registered at the option of the registrant.
NON-APPORTIONABLE COMMERCIAL VEHICLES ARE GRANTED FULL INTERSTATE
RECIPROCITY.
Common and contract carriers, otherwise known as “for hire” carriers, must secure a permit
from the Texas Department of Transportation, Motor Carrier Division and the Public Service
Commission of Alabama.
TRAILER AND SEMITRAILERS
Full reciprocity.
DEALERS AND MANUFACTURERS
Operation under Alabama dealer plates is allowed when used by dealers and manufacturers for
movement of their own cars from factory to dealer's place of business, from distributor to dealer,
or from one dealer to another dealer. Each vehicle moved shall have a dealer's plate or
identification issued by the resident state securely affixed to such vehicle.
BUSES
Full reciprocity for motor vehicles owned or chartered by all schools and colleges, religious or
charitable associations or institutions, or governmental agencies when used to convey their
athletic teams, orchestras or other scholastic, religious, or charitable organizations or
employees for temporary trips. Registrants have the option of proportionally registering charter
buses. Buses operating on a fixed schedule must be apportionally registered with Texas and
display an Apportioned License Plate.
WEIGHT, HEIGHT, ETC.
Operations must conform to Texas regulations as to maximum weight, height, width, length, and
other vehicle operational regulations. Movement of indivisible loads allowed under permit
issued by the state in which the vehicle is being operated.
MISCELLANEOUS
All operations must conform to the laws and regulations of the state in which operations are
made. Failure to do so subjects operators to prosecution and fine under the laws of the state in
which operating

I thought the use of the word "temporary abode" was interesting. It appears that if you are from Alabama, and establish a temporary abode in Texas you would be required to immediately register your Alabama vehicle in Texas. Agreements with other states use the words "establish domicile" which seems to have an entirely different meaning.

I'd bet that each state has a similar list, finding it may be a challenge.

I have a CDL and have a triples endorsement With 28 years. Don't confuse commercial permitted operations with joe blow rver ! Over length laws are not reciprocal. Ea state sets their own length and weight restrictions on their own roads. Commercial operations can pay for over length triples etc generally , again depends on state but, joe public can't.
For example Oregon allows commercial triple tow i.e. UPS pays the state for the permit which I had to have in the cab .. Wash and Cal do not allow triples , no matter what my personal license says . To add to it Oregon does not allow non commercial multiple tow.
How does this apply to length or your Rv combination ? Only to show ea state sets rules on length and weight. The drivers license I carry only allows me to do what is legal in the state I'm in. Commercially or non .
A foot or two over and non commercial ? Nobody's going to bother you ,In my opinion of course . Commercial ? You bet ! there's $ to be made and most scales also check length. But since your not crossing scales ..... Plus most cops don't know weight length regs ... The state dot ( the guys in the scale house ) do however.

Tom/Barb wrote:

MPond wrote:
There are - each state has a DMV (or similar) site listing the requirements for their various classes of licenses.

Licenses are not the issue. If there were interstate restriction of state to state equipment requirements there would be a a place stating what and where.

There are no restrictions of that nature, so no webpage or document saying so.

Sorry - was posting in a hurry earlier...

What I meant to say was that each state DMV site lists the various vehicle equipment rules for their state.

You're looking at this the wrong way. Each state has its own rules for licenses & vehicles, and they're all state-specific. However, most of the states signed onto the Drivers License Compact, so there is now reciprocity on licenses and you can find plenty of info all over the net on it.

There is no compact, no agreement, and no reciprocity for equipment, so the rules are specific from state to state. No agreement, so nothing to search for about hardware reciprocity.

Some groups/retailers have published sites for hardware their interested in. For example, auxiliary brakes for toads - many manufacturers list the toad / towing rules for all 50 states to encourage people to buy their products.

I worked for UPS for 30 years and triple towing in WA was NOT allowed. At least it wasn't during the 30 years I was there.

I also just checked a web site on WA state towing laws and it states that triple towing is NOT allowed. Unless this law has been changed recently, the only place you would see triple towing on I-5 is in Oregon.

RayChez wrote:

ArchHoagland wrote:
That question comes up every few months and I've never seen anybody say they got a ticket.

I know there are a lot of overlength RV's pulling big trailers out there. Guess the police leave them alone as long as they are driving sensibly.

Not really! Friend of mine had Monaco Signature and pulled a full size pickup. He got a ticket coming over the Tehachapi mountains on his way to Pahrump, Nev. for being over 65' long.

I guess it all depends on the highway patrol, but she would not give him any slack.

First one I've heard of. Did she pull him over just for length or were there other factors?

MPond wrote:
There are - each state has a DMV (or similar) site listing the requirements for their various classes of licenses.

Licenses are not the issue. If there were interstate restriction of state to state equipment requirements there would be a a place stating what and where.

There are no restrictions of that nature, so no webpage or document saying so.