Pleasure Way Promaster Lexor

There is an outside bay to store the sewage hose on Travato.

A discharge pump is a mixed bag. I'd rather have none, but if I have to choose, I'd much prefer it on the gray water. If it fails it's nowhere near as foul a thing to deal with.

The drain on the shower pan is an odd thing. But you can either run is while you shower, or after since you're not going to accumulate alot of water in that pan. Someone pointed out the the thing to do is put a $2 strainer on that drain to keep bits out of the pump (even though it has an external filter). You don't run that pump for the bathroom or kitchen sink though, just the shower.

One big downside for the Travato is that, if you are hooked up at a campsite, you can't just leave your gray valve open. You have to fill the tank and then pump it out holding down the pump switch. As the tank is only 15 gallons, that is probably something you'd do once a day if you weren't conserving water.

Stuff to think about when looking at the different units.

I would like to see it up close. It is about $10,000 more than a Travato, but the floor plan isn't as oddball. I really like the PW dealer in my neck of the woods, so buying there would be decent.

To me, tank sizes are crucial, and engineering. I don't want to have to turn on a drain pump when in the shower, and I don't want to have to use another pump to move the gray water (which means I can't use a macerator pump for the black water.) The ideal would be a macerator pump like RTs which the hose stows in a bay, no need to carry a sewage hose inside, but a gravity dump works, and I can always clap a portable macerator pump onto that.

wincrasher65 wrote:


There is a German van that has a similar bed, but it fits flush against the ceiling so you have full walking height under it. In fact, on that van, those upper cabinets are on the underside of the bed mechanism, so that you don't loose any storage in that van. When the bed is folded up, there are two fold away settees on the floor, so you can fold those against the walls and have a cargo area. Folded down as seating, or with a table as a dinette, or folded into a bed, so you can sleep 4 adults in the back with the upper bed lowered 1/2 way down. Hard to describe, but a really cool, flexible setup.

I get it. Sounds like a great option. Maybe we will see a variation here.

SkiMore wrote:
The bed can raise/lower.
There is something on the floor in front of the bed. It might just be a wall to keep stuff from flying forward or it may be something else.

There is a German van that has a similar bed, but it fits flush against the ceiling so you have full walking height under it. In fact, on that van, those upper cabinets are on the underside of the bed mechanism, so that you don't loose any storage in that van. When the bed is folded up, there are two fold away settees on the floor, so you can fold those against the walls and have a cargo area. Folded down as seating, or with a table as a dinette, or folded into a bed, so you can sleep 4 adults in the back with the upper bed lowered 1/2 way down. Hard to describe, but a really cool, flexible setup.

I noticed the ProMaster from Safari comes with a 220A alternator. Instead of the 180 on Travato,

And $6,000 for the diesel option. Which is not even available from Winnebago.

I also like that the AC and TV are options instead of standard. A generator is not offered.

The bed can raise/lower.
There is something on the floor in front of the bed. It might just be a wall to keep stuff from flying forward or it may be something else.

I'd be shocked if the grey tank was in that area. That area is over the rear axle, so no big cuts in the floor would be there to accommodate a tank of that size.

I suspect it is a chase to route piping and wiring. The Travato does a similar thing, but it's in the front of the vehicle, not the back.

SkiMore wrote:

charles wrote:
.. By having a raised bed you would indeed loose almost all of the cabinet space, it would also cover the air conditioning and heat pump vents, and lower the standing height to the point that you would have to bend over to get to the sofa or lounge seating, that will never happen.

Nick

Isn't the point of raising the bed to get a huge storage area back there? I don't think anyone would want to sit on those side benches.

I thought the mid height bed configuration was interesting. You could keep bikes and lots of stuff under the bed and you would still have plenty of room to sleep. All your seating would be up front.

i looked at the pictures. the bed is not raised-the floor in front of the bed and partly down the hall is. I think it's a gray water tank or wiring/piping. some truck campers are like this.



heres a side view pick of grey tank

linky

lfloom wrote:
Have you looked at Sportmobile? They can certainly build what you want, and I do not think it is any more expensive.

sportsmobile is currently 'prototyping a promaster'their words not mine. but i have also read they are having some difficulties with the lowered promaster floor and their designs. although we think of sportsmoblie as an advanced b builder they use standard components-they don't make tanks to fit certain chassis but by ready made standard sizes.

most of the advanced b makers claim to make their own tanks to fit whatever van they are using.

Have you looked at Sportmobile? They can certainly build what you want, and I do not think it is any more expensive.