Reflex439 wrote:
One recent update to my last post of 8/22/16. In the front area, I replaced the third seat and added a Lagoon swivel table. I can not seat three in the front and use the table for any of the seats, or for all, as well as swinging it to use for the kitchen prep. The rear bed is still setup as a permanent queen bed (east/west). This configuration with the seating and table for three, and the permanent bed works perfect for us.
Here is a https://wordpress.com/post/blacktopoffice.com/680blog that shows the table configurations if interested.
We went the oppostite way on our 07 C190P Roadtrek. We found the front table too big, as you couldn't walk around it to get to the bathroom or kitchen without folding it down. Ours had the current version table that came out of the cabinet, and we just made a smaller one, that could be gotten around. Much more useful, although we don't use it as much as we thought we would, as we tend to like lounging on the nice mattress on the full time bed we put in.
One recent update to my last post of 8/22/16. In the front area, I replaced the third seat and added a Lagoon swivel table. I can not seat three in the front and use the table for any of the seats, or for all, as well as swinging it to use for the kitchen prep. The rear bed is still setup as a permanent queen bed (east/west). This configuration with the seating and table for three, and the permanent bed works perfect for us.
Here is a https://wordpress.com/post/blacktopoffice.com/680blog that shows the table configurations if interested.
Here is a https://wordpress.com/post/blacktopoffice.com/680blog that shows the table configurations if interested.
I have a Roadtrek 190P and have nearly spent more time in the Roadtrek since March of this year, than I have in my own home. Iโve made multiple modifications during that time to find the perfect compromise for my use. This may be of interest there.
I setup the bed and dinette in the beginning, but over time I found I wanted a permanent bed and came up with the following. It works very well for how I utilize the van, both solo and with my wife.
I use the two long seat back cushions from the dinette in the center to create the bed. This makes for a 52โx72โ bed, leaving the two areas under the rear cabinets open. It also allows better access to the overhead storage areas. I bought a Full size (3โ thick 52โx73โ memory foam mattress topper, and installed that east/west. That made a world of difference in comfort. I think I would have opted for a 4โ. Or even better but more expensive, an 8โ memory foam mattress and not use the Roadtrek cushions at all. Either way this gives us a decent size bed for the two of us.
It also serves as a lounge area for watching tv, reading a book, etc. With the pillows, we can make two comfortable backrests that put us in the same position as a easy chair or sofa with feet up on a coffee table.
That also left extra space under the cabinets on both the left and right sides. Welcome additional storage! I will be adding customized drawers or bins as needs arise to custom fit for what will be stored there. Roughly two 20โx20โx13โ areas of storage opened up.
Due to the loss of the dinette, I needed to make things more desirable in the forward two seats for working, eating, playing cards or games, and to add additional counter and table space.
I removed the third seat we had never used and installed the nightstand from the rear in its place. I created a temporary custom tabletop to increase the surface area and test some configurations, positioned and held with C-clamps for now. In the end, there will be a sliding and folding table top that will double the surface area and allow it to be used in multiple configurations. It will slide toward the person in the rear facing passenger seat for dining or use as laptop work area, or unfold for more space for use in food preparation, folding clothes, etc. Folded and slid back allows easy access to for entry/exit thru the side doors and the smaller table top can still be used.
It also opens up storage for a bin area between the nightstand drawers and bathroom wall which I will custom fit for tupperware bins, or make a large deep storage bin area. Either will be accessible from both inside or outside as its a pass through.
The photos show a temporary setup as I work out the design before making the permanent installation, which will have a slide top to extend toward the rear facing passenger seat.
I now use the two tables up front and donโt miss the dinette at all. In fact, this layout works so much better as I can use it for preparing food, folding my laundry, work area, and transitional inside/outside stuff. Much more table/counter space than the dinette gave us.
The stock table behind the drivers seat can still be used by either passenger or driver, or used together for lots of table/counter space. I will probably create a custom table to replace the drivers side table to make them work together better.
But as is, two of us can easily use the two front seats and tables for eating, working, playing cards, etc, and never feel the need to breakdown the bed and use the old dinette. Very functional table/counter space, and the bed is so much more comfortable.
I hope this makes sense. I can take additional photos if needed once I fabricate and install the final tables.
I setup the bed and dinette in the beginning, but over time I found I wanted a permanent bed and came up with the following. It works very well for how I utilize the van, both solo and with my wife.
I use the two long seat back cushions from the dinette in the center to create the bed. This makes for a 52โx72โ bed, leaving the two areas under the rear cabinets open. It also allows better access to the overhead storage areas. I bought a Full size (3โ thick 52โx73โ memory foam mattress topper, and installed that east/west. That made a world of difference in comfort. I think I would have opted for a 4โ. Or even better but more expensive, an 8โ memory foam mattress and not use the Roadtrek cushions at all. Either way this gives us a decent size bed for the two of us.
It also serves as a lounge area for watching tv, reading a book, etc. With the pillows, we can make two comfortable backrests that put us in the same position as a easy chair or sofa with feet up on a coffee table.
That also left extra space under the cabinets on both the left and right sides. Welcome additional storage! I will be adding customized drawers or bins as needs arise to custom fit for what will be stored there. Roughly two 20โx20โx13โ areas of storage opened up.
Due to the loss of the dinette, I needed to make things more desirable in the forward two seats for working, eating, playing cards or games, and to add additional counter and table space.
I removed the third seat we had never used and installed the nightstand from the rear in its place. I created a temporary custom tabletop to increase the surface area and test some configurations, positioned and held with C-clamps for now. In the end, there will be a sliding and folding table top that will double the surface area and allow it to be used in multiple configurations. It will slide toward the person in the rear facing passenger seat for dining or use as laptop work area, or unfold for more space for use in food preparation, folding clothes, etc. Folded and slid back allows easy access to for entry/exit thru the side doors and the smaller table top can still be used.
It also opens up storage for a bin area between the nightstand drawers and bathroom wall which I will custom fit for tupperware bins, or make a large deep storage bin area. Either will be accessible from both inside or outside as its a pass through.
The photos show a temporary setup as I work out the design before making the permanent installation, which will have a slide top to extend toward the rear facing passenger seat.
I now use the two tables up front and donโt miss the dinette at all. In fact, this layout works so much better as I can use it for preparing food, folding my laundry, work area, and transitional inside/outside stuff. Much more table/counter space than the dinette gave us.
The stock table behind the drivers seat can still be used by either passenger or driver, or used together for lots of table/counter space. I will probably create a custom table to replace the drivers side table to make them work together better.
But as is, two of us can easily use the two front seats and tables for eating, working, playing cards, etc, and never feel the need to breakdown the bed and use the old dinette. Very functional table/counter space, and the bed is so much more comfortable.
I hope this makes sense. I can take additional photos if needed once I fabricate and install the final tables.
