Some Weight/Numbers Help Please

Executive wrote:

PastorCharlie wrote:

Elias wrote:
The hitch is rated for 5,000.
The specs from PastorCharlie are incorrect as this model is the 3845.

Those specs are correct for the unit noted. You failed to posted your particular unit until now, had that information been given I would have posted information for model 3845. It is important to give all information when seeking an informed answer. ;)

"Forgive me Father, for I have sinned....".......:W......Dennis

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bsinmich wrote:
I would start by checking with Newmar. They are known to make changes for customers. They may do just what you want.

Thanks bsinmich,
I'm working with my dealer now to see if they'll make these changes.
I figure I'll hear yeah or nay next week.
Worst case I can always wait for the 2015's and see what they come out with.

I would start by checking with Newmar. They are known to make changes for customers. They may do just what you want.

Dennis is right and the OP was right in his/her calculations to begin with. I have no idea where that 10,000lbs tow capacity came from.

PastorCharlie wrote:

Elias wrote:
The hitch is rated for 5,000.
The specs from PastorCharlie are incorrect as this model is the 3845.

Those specs are correct for the unit noted. You failed to posted your particular unit until now, had that information been given I would have posted information for model 3845. It is important to give all information when seeking an informed answer. ;)

"Forgive me Father, for I have sinned....".......:W......Dennis

Elias wrote:
The hitch is rated for 5,000.
The specs from PastorCharlie are incorrect as this model is the 3845.

Those specs are correct for the unit noted. You failed to posted your particular unit until now, had that information been given I would have posted information for model 3845. It is important to give all information when seeking an informed answer. ;)

kaydeejay wrote:

DSDP Don wrote:
"kaydeejay"......I actually went to Newmar's site and gave the correct figures. Please do your homework before calling me wrong. Gross Combined Weight is not empty coach subtracted from Gross Vehicle Weight. The Ventana's have a 10000 pound tow rating which is larger than GVWR.

I still don't understand where you are getting the 10,000# tow rating from.
With a GCWR (NOT GVWR) of 33,000# and an empty weight of 26,100#, with NOTHING in the coach, the max tow is 6900# assuming the hitch is rated for that much.
And, according to the specs posted by EXECUTIVE, the GVWR is actually 1000# less than the sum of the axle ratings.
I'm sure you will correct me if I'm wrong :B

I think the misunderstanding is that the Ventana is rated to tow 10,000 lbs while the Ventana LE I'm looking at is rated to tow 5,000 lbs.
Don may have thought they had the same rating.
The Ventana has the 360 Cummins and a heavier duty chassis as opposed to the 340 cummins.

Now, if they only made the Ventana in a bunk model I'd ink a deal today.:)

DSDP Don wrote:
"kaydeejay"......I actually went to Newmar's site and gave the correct figures. Please do your homework before calling me wrong. Gross Combined Weight is not empty coach subtracted from Gross Vehicle Weight. The Ventana's have a 10000 pound tow rating which is larger than GVWR.

I still don't understand where you are getting the 10,000# tow rating from.
With a GCWR (NOT GVWR) of 33,000# and an empty weight of 26,100#, with NOTHING in the coach, the max tow is 6900# assuming the hitch is rated for that much.
And, according to the specs posted by EXECUTIVE, the GVWR is actually 1000# less than the sum of the axle ratings.
I'm sure you will correct me if I'm wrong :B

Thanks Dennis!

The OP stated he's buying a 2014 Ventana LE 3845. Here's the specs for that coach from Newmar's webpage:



Here's what those numbers mean:



So, given all that, it appears the OP can carry up to 4900 lbs in his coach which would include the tongue weight of the towed vehicle. That said, he still should not exceed the total weight of 33,000 lbs which would include the total weight of the RV and towed vehicle. Given the above, my calculations agree with the OP's. 6900-4300=2600. However, that's assuming the dealer has not added anything to the base vehicle. The coach should be weighed ready for camping then subtract that number from 33,000 and you'll know if your truck it too heavy. Stay within the specs and you'll have no warranty issues, going outside those parameters could bring you grief.

Remember when towing, the maximum load cannot exceed the weakest link in the system whether that be the drive train, hitch rating or other factors.....Dennis