Super Singles

[mchero]

Anybody running super singles on their class A???

For those of you unfamiliar with super singles they are a single WIDE tire/rim that replaces the duals on the rear axle(s) seen on some of the trucks on our highways.
They are very efficient BUT if you have a blowout your unable to limp to a station.

[liborko]

If there were super singles tires and wheels available in 19.5" size I would install them in a heartbeat. As it is now, I can't even find aluminum wheels to fit stupid Ford Better Idea 8-stud hubs & wheels instead of 10-stud industry standard to fit my 245/70R19.5 tires.

[down_home]

I aw my first Super Single alligator yesterday on the way to Murfresboro on I24.
Didn't see the semi it came off of though.
TOT was wrestling with it trying to get it on a truck. It appeared it lew in the middle of the thread, but I could not see all of it. It was one piece or the main piece and you could see where it came off the wheel. Did some damage to the bead.
Didn't think it would be possible to throw a whole tire off something of that size.
There were some skid marks in both lanes. I couldn't tell if a wreck insued or not.

[slickest1]

If these posters want to go to super singles the they should just do it. They can find for themselves wether it is a good or bad thing. For my experience no I will stick with what I have.

[BigRabbitMan]

Small amounts of side to side movement is not unusual for unloaded trailers.

[Ductape]

Crabbing comes from axle misalignment and has nothing to do with tires.

[stvdman]

time2roll wrote:

stvdman wrote:
Without reading all of the post before this one, thought I would share and hope its not a repeat.

During recent 1900 mile r/t from MD to FL back to MD..had the opportunity to observe a few trucks with "super singles". What I noticed it they appear to have a little more "tail wag" and move a little more when being passed or passing other big vehicles. They also tended to "crab" (go down the road at a slight angle from front to back) a little when the truck moved from side to side in its lane.

Only saw three that I remember and closely followed two..one for about the whole state of NC.

Just a small observance in both time and distance, but it was noticeable, even if just a little.

Three trucks in 1900 miles? I see three a day on my 10 mile commute to work. They seem rock solid and straight as an arrow to me. Actually the super single trucks seem to be better maintained with better drivers.
Just my very unscientific observation.

Yeah, THREE. I was travelling up I-95 with traffic, how many do you suppose I should have seen? I was not passing a ton of vehicles nor were there a lot of trucks passing me...only so many to observe. One of them did pass and kept on going, only saw it for like 2-3 mins, another was in front for 20-25 mins and got off on an exit, the last one was in front of me for a good 2 hours, almost 120 miles or so. I was following him up the road, watched it pass some other trucks, get passed by other trucks/cars, and meander within its own lane. From my vantage point I could watch it "crab" down the road when there as movement from side to side. I didn't notice as much with the trucks that had duals. This one truck could have been an anomaly but it was noticeable , to me anyway.

[time2roll]

stvdman wrote:
Without reading all of the post before this one, thought I would share and hope its not a repeat.

During recent 1900 mile r/t from MD to FL back to MD..had the opportunity to observe a few trucks with "super singles". What I noticed it they appear to have a little more "tail wag" and move a little more when being passed or passing other big vehicles. They also tended to "crab" (go down the road at a slight angle from front to back) a little when the truck moved from side to side in its lane.

Only saw three that I remember and closely followed two..one for about the whole state of NC.

Just a small observance in both time and distance, but it was noticeable, even if just a little.

Three trucks in 1900 miles? I see three a day on my 10 mile commute to work. They seem rock solid and straight as an arrow to me. Actually the super single trucks seem to be better maintained with better drivers.
Just my very unscientific observation.

[TDInewguy]

timmac wrote:
Super Singles seems like a OK deal for some gas savings but than you have to carry 2 spares if you want to have peace of mind, I never travel without a spare, and once I had a blowout on a outside dually tire but was still able to drive down the road to a good area to change my tire without damage to the other rim.

I put 20,000+ miles on my RV last year and didn't carry a spare, other than for my trailer.

Most of you here are retired or on vacation, so a little down time I would imagine would be an inconvenience, but not put you out of a job. I travel for work with my family and we have meetings and deadlines, and still I don't see the value in an unmounted spare tire for a 22.5" rim.

Every semi truck that travels across the country has reasonable access to both mobile service trucks and service centers. If I need a tire, call one of them and let them handle it while I sit and wait. As I am not about to change out an unmounted 22.5" myself.

[stvdman]

Without reading all of the post before this one, thought I would share and hope its not a repeat.

During recent 1900 mile r/t from MD to FL back to MD..had the opportunity to observe a few trucks with "super singles". What I noticed it they appear to have a little more "tail wag" and move a little more when being passed or passing other big vehicles. They also tended to "crab" (go down the road at a slight angle from front to back) a little when the truck moved from side to side in its lane.

Only saw three that I remember and closely followed two..one for about the whole state of NC.

Just a small observance in both time and distance, but it was noticeable, even if just a little.

[mchero]

I have 22.5 inch tires. Even if I carried a spare I'm not going to change it myself. I do have the tools to do so but that's what roadside service is for.

[timmac]

Super Singles seems like a OK deal for some gas savings but than you have to carry 2 spares if you want to have peace of mind, I never travel without a spare, and once I had a blowout on a outside dually tire but was still able to drive down the road to a good area to change my tire without damage to the other rim.

[TDInewguy]

Bill.Satellite wrote:

TDInewguy wrote:
Doing the math on my tires, I will actually save money buying singles.

The 305/70/22.5 tires run over $700 each and the super single rear tire is about $850. Add in a rim and I'm still lower price than just buying duals.

Tell us what you think about your new singles after you pick up the first nail in that tire and are crippled.

Well - I will!

With nearly 100k miles logged and no flats or issues, I am going to take the gamble again to save money on the purchase price and save money on fuel every stop.

If I get a front flat - I stop. If I get a TOAD or trailer flat, I stop, and if I get a super single flat I stop.

Not really a big risk in my opinion.

Happy travels!!

[Bill_Satellite]

:B

[willald]

Bill.Satellite wrote:
This is nothing new and I am not sure why you think it is..

I'm not the one that said this was new, you did. You are the one that said, "Tell us what you think about your new singles after you pick up the first nail....".

All I did was point out that super singles were nothing new to this particular poster, he has been using them for years. Thats all. He's heard all the reasons why some don't like them, and still choses to use them and is happy with them after using them for several years. I think thats great.

If you don't like me or my posts, please feel free to block me so you don't have to ever deal with my responses in the future.

I've been on these forums for 15 years, never felt the need yet to block anyone. Don't intend to start now. 🙂

Will

[bfast54]

Passin Thru wrote:
How would any truck driver run 150,000 miles a year. I had a Peterbilt with 500HP and I could only run 130,000 legally a year. I drove 75 MPH out west and Schneider and Swift only do 63.

Ever heard of TEAM DRIVING????........:W