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bluegypsy
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Nov 03, 2014

The "7-Year Glitches"

Like the "7-year itch" kinda....
Our rig is approaching its 7th year of full-time use, and in the past couple of months I've had to replace the bedroom lights dimmer switch (quick and easy) and the water heater relay (not so quick and easy).

The water heater relay was an especially scary "glitch" - we hooked up at a CG in TN, and after a few minutes began to smell an awful "burnt insulation" smell in the bedroom. After switching off all AC power and checking all over the place, we discovered where the smell was coming from, the back end of the Atwood water heater. A call to Atwood followed, where we found out that the OEMs (in this case Fleetwood) sometimes leave too much wiring in the little plastic box that houses the relay, causing eventual chafing and wires shorting out (this being the 15 amp AC to the heater!). That's exactly what happened in my case. Removed burnt wiring, shortening it, and replaced relay just in case it was damaged. All OK now.

Funny thing I learned during my troubleshooting: At one point during my "smell-check" I turned off the circuit breaker to the water heater, and also the "washer-dryer" breaker (which we don't have) - later noticed my power distribution display showed I was only hooked up to 30 amp power, but I was connected to 50 amp at pedestal. Called CG maintenance over, they checked pedestal, all good. After checking my transfer switch, etc, etc, (and sweating & swearing) discovered that turning the "washer-dryer" circuit breaker back on fixed the erroneous display.

Anyways, guess it's just the start of the rig's "7-year glitch" time.
  • bluegypsy wrote:
    Like the "7-year itch" kinda....
    Our rig is approaching its 7th year of full-time use, and in the past couple of months I've had to replace the bedroom lights dimmer switch (quick and easy) and the water heater relay (not so quick and easy).

    The water heater relay was an especially scary "glitch" - we hooked up at a CG in TN, and after a few minutes began to smell an awful "burnt insulation" smell in the bedroom. After switching off all AC power and checking all over the place, we discovered where the smell was coming from, the back end of the Atwood water heater. A call to Atwood followed, where we found out that the OEMs (in this case Fleetwood) sometimes

    leave too much wiring in the little plastic box

    that houses the relay, causing eventual chafing and wires shorting out (this being the 15 amp AC to the heater!). That's exactly what happened in my case. Removed burnt wiring, shortening it, and replaced relay just in case it was damaged. All OK now.

    Funny thing I learned during my troubleshooting: At one point during my "smell-check" I turned off the circuit breaker to the water heater, and also the "washer-dryer" breaker (which we don't have) - later noticed my power distribution display showed I was only hooked up to 30 amp power, but I was connected to 50 amp at pedestal. Called CG maintenance over, they checked pedestal, all good. After checking my transfer switch, etc, etc, (and sweating & swearing) discovered that turning the "washer-dryer" circuit breaker back on fixed the erroneous display.

    Anyways, guess it's just the start of the rig's "7-year glitch" time.

    x2
    Right around 7 years is when I started replacing items too.

    Interesting about the 'extra' wires. Seems the manufacturers of RV's think more is better when it comes to wires and hose.:R

    I had 'extra' wire going across the underbelly up and over the frame for running lights that came apart. Took 3 service calls to no avail. Until the day I crawled under the MH to look at something else and saw where they had zip stripped it to the top of the frame out of view and the splice had come apart. THE reason I had no running lights.

    'Extra', WAY extra fuel line hose looped all over the underbelly for the gen ended up being a problem that took 5 service calls to figure out. Poor ole fuel pump was pooped trying to suck gas thru all those hoops. Cut out all the excess hose and she worked fine.

    Still cheaper than fixing the sticks and bricks where ALL the big buck appliances go out miraculously at the stroke of 10 years!
  • Great. Mine is a 2008. i'm so looking forward to this great opportunity to tinker.
  • JimM68 wrote:
    Great. Mine is a 2008. i'm so looking forward to this great opportunity to tinker.


    Don't worry it's always fun figuring out how a MH is put together that does not in any way resemble how they do it in a residential house.:W
  • Since mine is a 2002 so 12 yo, I guess the PO took care of the "glitches".

    My 2000 Beaver was pretty trouble free so once again those issue were resolved before I took ownership.
  • We experienced the "7 year Glitch" on our way to Alaska in 2011 in our '04 Southwind. Developed a leak in the rear passenger side corner and the rains would not stop long enough for me to dry things out to caulk and patch. I never located the actual leak, just put enough caulk in enough places that it stopped. Blew or burned through both exhaust donuts near Fort Brag CA, as close to no place for RV service as you want to be. Made awful noise climbing the hills. The interior cabinetry, never the best, began to come apart requiring constant attention. A year later it was clear the interior needed to be completely redone and the WH chassis had 105,000 miles so we decided to trade it in on a DP.

    I have 4 1/2 years to go, however we are presently in Red Bay hoping to prevent some of those glitches from happening.
  • I've owned my Winnebago for over a decade (bought it new) and I have had very little trouble with it! And, I've never heard of a 7 year glitch? Is that like breaking a mirror and having 7 years of trouble?
  • Ivylog's avatar
    Ivylog
    Explorer III
    Other than my Norcold I can't complain after 10 years of half time use. Still looks good on the outside and see no reason why it will not go another 10 without major problems.
  • I never had the "7 year glitch". I had the 11,12 and 13 year glitches. Re manufactured tranny (Jasper) new brakes all around (Ford) and new tires (last month at Camping World).
    All started around 48,000 miles...now have 55 thou on the clock. Was advised to trade it...but why? I know what I've got (lotta new stuff) and the coach itself is fine. I figure a couple hundred here...a thousand or two there is better than another (new) hundred thousand mortgage.

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