thanks for the input . i am talking about the acer 29.2 . It seams to be the only one with a basement i can get a fishing pole in with out breaking down.i could not get a folding lawn chair in most storage i seen on most models . we dry camp and fish so we need to carry things others may not need . we have a 2012 coachman freelander with a full basement. may just put in some repairs and keep. we use the over head bunk as well for portable satellite etc. would like to go to a class a class cs leak in nose a lot . hope class a to be better on this ?