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Bucky1320
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Jun 09, 2014

Using battery charger in place of converter?

I have a 1990 Gulfstream P30 motorhome. One thing that drives me nuts is battery life. If I leave it unplugged, the batteries go dead quickly, and in days I have dead batteries, which isn't good for them. If I leave it plugged in, the batteries get overcharged, which is also terrible for them.
It has a magnetec converter with charger built in.
In the summer, I often leave it plugged in so that the fridge can run on shore power. During that time, I think that the newer trickle chargers would be much better on the batteries. But how do I go about this? I would love to hard wire it, but with 15A output, I don't know that I could rely on it alone for power when we are using the motorhome. If I plug in the charger with the converter charger enabled, then I suspect the converter charger will continue to overcharge regardless of what the charger is doing.
I don't want to invest in a new converter due to the cost. After all, it is a 1990 motorhome, and I don't want to spend more on this issue than the entire thing is worth. :)
Any suggestions?
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  • Bucky1320's avatar
    Bucky1320
    Explorer
    Jun 30, 2014
    harley-dave wrote:
    yep, easy and quick to do. I just replaced my old Magnetek with this one from bestconverter.com. Just make sure you have a BIG soldering iron for tinning the wires before connecting them.

    Dave


    I put mine in two weeks ago. Very nice. Not a terrible job. Maintains the batteries much better. One less problem.
  • BrianinMichigan's avatar
    BrianinMichigan
    Explorer
    Jun 10, 2014
    Bucky1320 wrote:
    OK. I'm headed in the direction of fixing one problem. So how does one go about finding draws in the motorhome? I have a voltmeter. Just have never done this before.

    Does the voltmeter have a amp meter? That's how you will find the drain/s on the battery.
  • gfs1943's avatar
    gfs1943
    Explorer
    Jun 10, 2014
    tropical36 wrote:

    Just bite the bullet and install one of these... New Converter
    Then when you trade it off, put the original back in and find something else to do with it or just sell it. You won't be sorry with the pain you'll save yourself, either.


    My inverter-charger fried itself last summer. I didn't really use the inverter, so I used a 6 amp battery charger to keep the house batteries charged. It worked to get us through last year's long trip, but I really had to be careful with light use, etc. or I would get a "low DC" message on the fridge.

    Last week I ordered the PD converter in this link, and replaced the inverter-charger with this converter. It seems to be doing the job, keeping the house batteries fully charged. Note that Amazon tries to sell you the converter plus the pendant for another $18. This converter, with the CV suffix in the model number, comes with the pendant; you don't need to spend the additional $18.

    I ordered from Amazon because it was a couple of $$ cheaper than Best Converters, and shipping was free.
  • Bucky1320's avatar
    Bucky1320
    Explorer
    Jun 09, 2014
    smkettner wrote:
    Bucky1320 wrote:
    OK. I'm headed in the direction of fixing one problem. So how does one go about finding draws in the motorhome? I have a voltmeter. Just have never done this before.


    You need to use the ammeter. When everything is off off and unplugged remove the main 12v connection to the battery. Place your meter probes across to complete the circuit. The 2a setting should be enough but go with 10 amp to start.

    Make a note of the reading. Then start pulling fuses and note the change. If the fuses can't get you to zero then you will need to disconnect other connections until you do. Once you zero out the meter remove it from the circuit.

    Then revisit your notes and determine what fuse or system is drawing the power. Do not turn anything on with the ammeter in the circuit as it will blow the internal fuse.


    Sounds like a plan. A lot faster with a helper for sure.
    Thanks all!
  • time2roll's avatar
    time2roll
    Nomad
    Jun 09, 2014
    Bucky1320 wrote:
    OK. I'm headed in the direction of fixing one problem. So how does one go about finding draws in the motorhome? I have a voltmeter. Just have never done this before.


    You need to use the ammeter. When everything is off off and unplugged remove the main 12v connection to the battery. Place your meter probes across to complete the circuit. The 2a setting should be enough but go with 10 amp to start.

    Make a note of the reading. Then start pulling fuses and note the change. If the fuses can't get you to zero then you will need to disconnect other connections until you do. Once you zero out the meter remove it from the circuit.

    Then revisit your notes and determine what fuse or system is drawing the power. Do not turn anything on with the ammeter in the circuit as it will blow the internal fuse.
  • pianotuna's avatar
    pianotuna
    Nomad III
    Jun 09, 2014
    Hi,

    Switch to led lighting. Cheapest source of supply is Ebay. Try one before jumping in "whole hog".
  • Bucky1320's avatar
    Bucky1320
    Explorer
    Jun 09, 2014
    OK. I'm headed in the direction of fixing one problem. So how does one go about finding draws in the motorhome? I have a voltmeter. Just have never done this before.
  • tropical36's avatar
    tropical36
    Explorer
    Jun 09, 2014
    Bucky1320 wrote:
    I have a 1990 Gulfstream P30 motorhome. One thing that drives me nuts is battery life. If I leave it unplugged, the batteries go dead quickly, and in days I have dead batteries, which isn't good for them. If I leave it plugged in, the batteries get overcharged, which is also terrible for them.
    It has a magnetec converter with charger built in.
    In the summer, I often leave it plugged in so that the fridge can run on shore power. During that time, I think that the newer trickle chargers would be much better on the batteries. But how do I go about this? I would love to hard wire it, but with 15A output, I don't know that I could rely on it alone for power when we are using the motorhome. If I plug in the charger with the converter charger enabled, then I suspect the converter charger will continue to overcharge regardless of what the charger is doing.
    I don't want to invest in a new converter due to the cost. After all, it is a 1990 motorhome, and I don't want to spend more on this issue than the entire thing is worth. :)
    Any suggestions?

    Just bite the bullet and install one of these... New Converter
    Then when you trade it off, put the original back in and find something else to do with it or just sell it. You won't be sorry with the pain you'll save yourself, either.
  • Bucky1320's avatar
    Bucky1320
    Explorer
    Jun 09, 2014
    Ok! OK! I called best converter. It's on its way....in a day or so.
  • CG_Dawson's avatar
    CG_Dawson
    Explorer
    Jun 09, 2014
    The "charge wizard" is an outstanding product. I have one and keep plugged in all of the time, never overcharged. It also periodically shocks the battery(s) to prevent acid build up.

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One thing that drives me nuts is battery life. If I leave it unplugged, the batteries go dead quickly, and in days I have dead batteries, which isn't good for them. If I leave it plugged in, the batteries get overcharged, which is also terrible for them.
It has a magnetec converter with charger built in.
In the summer, I often leave it plugged in so that the fridge can run on shore power. During that time, I think that the newer trickle chargers would be much better on the batteries. But how do I go about this? I would love to hard wire it, but with 15A output, I don't know that I could rely on it alone for power when we are using the motorhome. If I plug in the charger with the converter charger enabled, then I suspect the converter charger will continue to overcharge regardless of what the charger is doing.
I don't want to invest in a new converter due to the cost. After all, it is a 1990 motorhome, and I don't want to spend more on this issue than the entire thing is worth. :)
Any suggestions?","body@stringLength":"1080","rawBody":"I have a 1990 Gulfstream P30 motorhome. One thing that drives me nuts is battery life. If I leave it unplugged, the batteries go dead quickly, and in days I have dead batteries, which isn't good for them. If I leave it plugged in, the batteries get overcharged, which is also terrible for them.
It has a magnetec converter with charger built in.
In the summer, I often leave it plugged in so that the fridge can run on shore power. During that time, I think that the newer trickle chargers would be much better on the batteries. But how do I go about this? I would love to hard wire it, but with 15A output, I don't know that I could rely on it alone for power when we are using the motorhome. If I plug in the charger with the converter charger enabled, then I suspect the converter charger will continue to overcharge regardless of what the charger is doing.
I don't want to invest in a new converter due to the cost. After all, it is a 1990 motorhome, and I don't want to spend more on this issue than the entire thing is worth. :)
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harley-dave wrote:
yep, easy and quick to do. I just replaced my old Magnetek with this one from bestconverter.com. Just make sure you have a BIG soldering iron for tinning the wires before connecting them.

Dave


I put mine in two weeks ago. Very nice. Not a terrible job. Maintains the batteries much better. One less problem.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-06-30T11:19:08.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-06-30T11:19:08.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":406},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:1259096/message:1259117","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:261117":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:261117","uid":261117,"login":"BrianinMichigan","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2003-03-13T11:51:49.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-10.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:261117"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1259116":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1259116","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1259116":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:261117"},"id":"message:1259116","revisionNum":1,"uid":1259116,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1259096"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1259096"},"subject":"Re: Using battery charger in place of converter?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1259116"},"body":"
Bucky1320 wrote:
OK. I'm headed in the direction of fixing one problem. So how does one go about finding draws in the motorhome? I have a voltmeter. Just have never done this before.

Does the voltmeter have a amp meter? That's how you will find the drain/s on the battery.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-06-10T15:13:37.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-06-10T15:13:37.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":405},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:1259096/message:1259116","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:1495":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:1495","uid":1495,"login":"gfs1943","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2002-02-04T14:29:32.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-5.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:1495"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1259115":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1259115","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1259115":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:1495"},"id":"message:1259115","revisionNum":1,"uid":1259115,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1259096"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1259096"},"subject":"Re: Using battery charger in place of converter?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1259115"},"body":"
tropical36 wrote:

Just bite the bullet and install one of these... New Converter
Then when you trade it off, put the original back in and find something else to do with it or just sell it. You won't be sorry with the pain you'll save yourself, either.


My inverter-charger fried itself last summer. I didn't really use the inverter, so I used a 6 amp battery charger to keep the house batteries charged. It worked to get us through last year's long trip, but I really had to be careful with light use, etc. or I would get a \"low DC\" message on the fridge.

Last week I ordered the PD converter in this link, and replaced the inverter-charger with this converter. It seems to be doing the job, keeping the house batteries fully charged. Note that Amazon tries to sell you the converter plus the pendant for another $18. This converter, with the CV suffix in the model number, comes with the pendant; you don't need to spend the additional $18.

I ordered from Amazon because it was a couple of $$ cheaper than Best Converters, and shipping was free.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-06-10T07:42:42.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-06-10T07:42:42.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":406},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:1259096/message:1259115","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1259114":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1259114","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1259114":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:123155"},"id":"message:1259114","revisionNum":1,"uid":1259114,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1259096"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1259096"},"subject":"Re: Using battery charger in place of converter?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1259114"},"body":"
smkettner wrote:
Bucky1320 wrote:
OK. I'm headed in the direction of fixing one problem. So how does one go about finding draws in the motorhome? I have a voltmeter. Just have never done this before.


You need to use the ammeter. When everything is off off and unplugged remove the main 12v connection to the battery. Place your meter probes across to complete the circuit. The 2a setting should be enough but go with 10 amp to start.

Make a note of the reading. Then start pulling fuses and note the change. If the fuses can't get you to zero then you will need to disconnect other connections until you do. Once you zero out the meter remove it from the circuit.

Then revisit your notes and determine what fuse or system is drawing the power. Do not turn anything on with the ammeter in the circuit as it will blow the internal fuse.


Sounds like a plan. A lot faster with a helper for sure.
Thanks all!","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-06-09T13:04:16.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-06-09T13:04:16.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":403},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:1259096/message:1259114","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"Rank:rank:39":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:39","position":29,"name":"Nomad","color":"333333","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:108257":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:108257","uid":108257,"login":"time2roll","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2005-03-21T19:03:16.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-5.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:39"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:108257"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1259113":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1259113","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1259113":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:108257"},"id":"message:1259113","revisionNum":1,"uid":1259113,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1259096"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1259096"},"subject":"Re: Using battery charger in place of converter?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1259113"},"body":"
Bucky1320 wrote:
OK. I'm headed in the direction of fixing one problem. So how does one go about finding draws in the motorhome? I have a voltmeter. Just have never done this before.


You need to use the ammeter. When everything is off off and unplugged remove the main 12v connection to the battery. Place your meter probes across to complete the circuit. The 2a setting should be enough but go with 10 amp to start.

Make a note of the reading. Then start pulling fuses and note the change. If the fuses can't get you to zero then you will need to disconnect other connections until you do. Once you zero out the meter remove it from the circuit.

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Switch to led lighting. Cheapest source of supply is Ebay. Try one before jumping in \"whole hog\".","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"104","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-06-09T11:31:45.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-06-09T11:31:45.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":404},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:1259096/message:1259112","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1259111":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1259111","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1259111":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:123155"},"id":"message:1259111","revisionNum":1,"uid":1259111,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1259096"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1259096"},"subject":"Re: Using battery charger in place of converter?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1259111"},"body":"OK. I'm headed in the direction of fixing one problem. So how does one go about finding draws in the motorhome? I have a voltmeter. Just have never done this before.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"169","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-06-09T11:09:25.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-06-09T11:09:25.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":404},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:1259096/message:1259111","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:1241":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:1241","uid":1241,"login":"tropical36","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2004-07-11T20:20:43.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-12.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:1241"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1259110":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1259110","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1259110":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:1241"},"id":"message:1259110","revisionNum":1,"uid":1259110,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1259096"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1259096"},"subject":"Re: Using battery charger in place of converter?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1259110"},"body":"
Bucky1320 wrote:
I have a 1990 Gulfstream P30 motorhome. One thing that drives me nuts is battery life. If I leave it unplugged, the batteries go dead quickly, and in days I have dead batteries, which isn't good for them. If I leave it plugged in, the batteries get overcharged, which is also terrible for them.
It has a magnetec converter with charger built in.
In the summer, I often leave it plugged in so that the fridge can run on shore power. During that time, I think that the newer trickle chargers would be much better on the batteries. But how do I go about this? I would love to hard wire it, but with 15A output, I don't know that I could rely on it alone for power when we are using the motorhome. If I plug in the charger with the converter charger enabled, then I suspect the converter charger will continue to overcharge regardless of what the charger is doing.
I don't want to invest in a new converter due to the cost. After all, it is a 1990 motorhome, and I don't want to spend more on this issue than the entire thing is worth. :)
Any suggestions?

Just bite the bullet and install one of these... New Converter
Then when you trade it off, put the original back in and find something else to do with it or just sell it. 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OK! I called best converter. 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