Very Bad RV Wreck in Oregon

T18skyguy wrote:

jorbill2or wrote:

T18skyguy wrote:

RedRollingRoadblock wrote:
Not that it makes much difference of the results but a couple of questions arise about the where of the crash.

"It took the Ilwaco Fire Department over an hour"... From Ilwaco it is at least a 30 minute drive to anyplace in Oregon and that includes a 5 mile drive across the Astoria–Megler Bridge.

Some of the comments in the comments section seem to come from the towing company that is located in Ocean Park, WA. Oregon State Police isn't likely to have them on the call list unless it was an extreme emergency.

And the poster that said "Most roads in Oregon have no guard rails;" must be a transplant. I am an Oregon native for 67 years and driven a vast majority of the roads in the state and have seen many miles of guardrails.

I don't doubt you've seen many miles of guardrails, but the standard is no guard rails on the majority of roads throughout the State.

I to am a lifelong Oregonian with now 4 years touring the us and sure, there are no guardrail roads in places in Oregon .. I’ve found the rest of the country no different. Where are you getting this sales tax / roads info from ? All roads .. everywhere are “built “up with gravel shoulders.
Besides this crash was mislabeled and is a Washington crash. What about Washington state guardrails? On built up roads! I think they have a high sales tax but roads are generally from the fuel tax.
Old time Oregonians are a little touchy when transplants start talking sales tax to fix problems lol

I been here 26 years, and I find that native Oregonian's lack perspective. I've lived in Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Florida, Texas, California(sorry) and Oregon. I did NOT advocate for any sales tax, nor do I believe guardrails should be everywhere, but in many places, they have them where their most needed(mountain passes and such), but not Oregon. You ever go from Eugene to Sisters or the other mountain passes? No guardrails. Pennsylvania has guard rails all over the place. What does happen is occasionally when someone gets killed going over a mountainside, they make some noise about guardrails but it goes no where(nor do I think it should) Don

Well been an Oregonian for 23 years, before that a Washingtonian. Both states have guard rails where needed, and not where not needed. The job of the driver is to stay between the lines.
I drive Hwy 47 in Oregon, there are places where the fog line is the edge of the flat surface, the ditch starts on the other side. If they tried to place guard rails there the post would be exposed for 8', likely little stopping power.

I really feel for the couple in the accident, but they either both should have been in the cab, DW acting as a second set of eyes, and to keep the driver awake. OR the both should have been in the bed in the back, parked in some park, or parking lot.