Alexa, are you connected to the CIA?

[d3500ram]

Alexa, are you connected to the CIA?
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[fj12ryder]

Hey, as long as it doesn't bother you to have that guy standing at your open window listening and watching you, no issues. Personally it bugs the heck out of me. I'm not fond of Peeping Toms.

[westernrvparkow]

PyrateSilly wrote:
It's not the CIA or NSA that concerns me with collecting data. It's all the marketing firms that have their fingers in everything and collecting way more data to use. How many social sites are most people on? How many have apps on their phones to get discounts or to check-in at businesses to get discounts? Camera's every where, which everyone hates and don't want until a tragedy happens and then people like all the camera's tracking the bad guy(s). Again it's not the NSA or the CIA that alarms me so much, it's all the other's that track waayyyy more things.

Yet, no matter how many times I ask, no one can tell me what they are going to do with all this nefarious data except try and sell things to me. I seriously doubt there is any upside to anyone getting a video of me picking my nose or scratching my arse. Does knowing I like pepperoni on my pizza give the NSA the information it needs to connect me to a vast network of foreign operatives intent on destroying the American way of life? Does the CIA's knowledge of which social sites I post pictures of my dog on really help them bring in a new world order? Is the only thing blocking Dr. Evil from taking over the world a lack of knowledge of how I plan on spending my vacation? I'll start worrying about all this data collection when there is a sudden shortage of tinfoil to make hats out of.

[PyrateSilly]

It's not the CIA or NSA that concerns me with collecting data. It's all the marketing firms that have their fingers in everything and collecting way more data to use. How many social sites are most people on? How many have apps on their phones to get discounts or to check-in at businesses to get discounts? Camera's every where, which everyone hates and don't want until a tragedy happens and then people like all the camera's tracking the bad guy(s). Again it's not the NSA or the CIA that alarms me so much, it's all the other's that track waayyyy more things.

[fj12ryder]

Would you be creeped out if there was an actual person standing outside your window looking in? That's basically what you have with these devices, you just can't see them, but they're there.

[rockhillmanor]

RayJayco wrote:
We had the RNC here 5 years ago and it was all in the news about the gov. permanently installing cameras and the new facial recognition software. The major problem with that was needing a database to match the images to...

I have a video of Mark Zuckerberg when he fist started Facebook, telling that all of the Facebook apps have spyware as he has to make money somehow. He is now worth about $50 Billion dollars. Do you think that he made that much from advertising? $50 Million, yes, Billion...NO...

Now what does Facebook have that the gov. was interested in? OH, an instant database with photos of everyone, where they live, who their friends and associates are, where the eat, drink and just hang out...

Yep, keep posting all of them selfies and where you go habitually as someone may be interested in where you eat, although probably not the people that you think.

I give it 10 years before people realize what is happening and bet that they will regret the social networking.

How do you think Alexa answers your questions? Do you really believe that your phone does that? They go to a server, where that data is stored as is all of your texts, emails, etc...

What? You don't feel that you do anything wrong and don't care if you life is recorded? Well, just tick the right person or agency off and see if you still don't care...

Think about it...

X10

[bucky]

Oh my, lions and tigers and bears!
WRVPO I'm with you on this one!

[winnietrey]

We like Alexia, use it quite a bit.

I wonder has anyone taken the time to read the privacy policy here on RV net? Or any other website for that matter. Not all that dissimilar from Alexia in many ways

[RedRocket204]

rockhillmanor wrote:

The information they collect and use will be related to your viewing, shopping and other habits. It will be collected electronically, and you will see ads and content that relates to those habits.

READ the damnn privacy policies of each of them, Google and Amazon for cripes sake. :R

Then READ WHO all the subsidiaries are of each of them, that they themselves STATE they share private info with which in return that third party is allowed to sell the info to 'their' subsidiaries and other third parties.

AND THEN tell us how all of THOSE "totally unrelated and removed from online shopping companies" are using your info to enhance your shopping sprees?

AND you believe all of this NOT true?

So both Amazon and Google are lying about their own Privacy Policies??:H

Those are Disclaimers to legally cover companies but that is no indication that everything in those Disclaimers are being utilized to every word in there. You certainly have a right to believe what you want. You never know when you might be speaking with someone who might have more information than you about certain subjects.

[ol__yeller]

I for one would like to come to the defense of the technology in Amazon's Echo. My wife is a recent quadriplegic. Without her echo she cannot tell what time it is unless there is a large clock directly in front of her. She could not turn on the TV, mute the TV or change the channel. She couldn't turn on a light next to her at night. She couldn't turn up the furnace or turn on the AC. She can have books read to her by Alexa. This is a very much needed boost in technology to help those afflicted with quadriplegia. Imagine if you were unable to move your body in any way. How frustrating that must be. Any technology that makes her life a little less onerous is OK in my book. If someone wants to spy on our life, I hope you have a strong stomach. Besides that, I know how to make a hat out of tinfoil.

[rockhillmanor]

The information they collect and use will be related to your viewing, shopping and other habits. It will be collected electronically, and you will see ads and content that relates to those habits.

READ the damnn privacy policies of each of them, Google and Amazon for cripes sake. :R

Then READ WHO all the subsidiaries are of each of them, that they themselves STATE they share private info with which in return that third party is allowed to sell the info to 'their' subsidiaries and other third parties.

AND THEN tell us how all of THOSE "totally unrelated and removed from online shopping companies" are using your info to enhance your shopping sprees?

AND you believe all of this NOT true?

So both Amazon and Google are lying about their own Privacy Policies??:H

[westernrvparkow]

DutchmenSport wrote:
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And while you are at it, if the truth is so dangerous, why haven't they just shut down you and all the other truth tellers."

You really need to watch the entire series of "The X Files" again. At the end of the series when things finally get explained, although this is just a story made for Hollywood, there is a riveting element in there that makes you keenly aware that there is more going on than what meets the eye.

What better way to cover a conspiracy than to cause confusion and disclaim any legitimate, real observation that happens by calling the "real" the phony, the nut cases, the tin-foil wacko's, discrediting their personal encounters by calling them nut cases. When, all the while, "they" are using this confusion for their own agenda, hidden beneath the facade is the real intent! UFO? Demon underworld? Parallel Universes? Time Travel? An attempt to create a centralized system to control every movement on every human being on the planet? We will not know until it's too late.

An old time preacher once said, if you take a bucket of pure white paint, and drop a single drop of black paint into the bucket ... it's NEVER pure white again!

So, beneath all the confusion, there's a black drop of paint that we simply don't see!

Hope someone had the opportunity to watch that Netflix movie "IT". (Information Technology) ... not the demonic clown "IT" show.

I must admit I cannot argue with anyone who uses the X-Files and the movie "IT" as their basis for fact. Though I also must admit that I am now comforted by the fact that should the world start to fall apart, we will be saved by the Guardians of the Galaxy, the Justice League, SHIELD, and Iron Man. Until I read your post, I thought those were just a figment of some incredibly imaginative people's imaginations. Come to find out they are real.

[wa8yxm]

I see articles all the time on how hackers can access this or that device.. Usually the camera that it seems is in everything these days

Well. Since I'm alone in this house you won't pick up any embarassing conservation.. Perhaps me singing to my cat but hey.. I'm not embarassed.

And as for the camera.. Well if the adhesive side of a piece of gorilla tape really interests you that much.. Hack on in.

[mich800]

Alexa was the code name the Russians gave operation collusion. Coincidence?

[DutchmenSport]

"...
And while you are at it, if the truth is so dangerous, why haven't they just shut down you and all the other truth tellers."

You really need to watch the entire series of "The X Files" again. At the end of the series when things finally get explained, although this is just a story made for Hollywood, there is a riveting element in there that makes you keenly aware that there is more going on than what meets the eye.

What better way to cover a conspiracy than to cause confusion and disclaim any legitimate, real observation that happens by calling the "real" the phony, the nut cases, the tin-foil wacko's, discrediting their personal encounters by calling them nut cases. When, all the while, "they" are using this confusion for their own agenda, hidden beneath the facade is the real intent! UFO? Demon underworld? Parallel Universes? Time Travel? An attempt to create a centralized system to control every movement on every human being on the planet? We will not know until it's too late.

An old time preacher once said, if you take a bucket of pure white paint, and drop a single drop of black paint into the bucket ... it's NEVER pure white again!

So, beneath all the confusion, there's a black drop of paint that we simply don't see!

Hope someone had the opportunity to watch that Netflix movie "IT". (Information Technology) ... not the demonic clown "IT" show.

[westernrvparkow]

rockhillmanor wrote:

westernrvparkowner wrote:

rockhillmanor wrote:

westernrvparkowner wrote:
The information they collect and use will be related to your viewing, shopping and other habits. It will be collected electronically, and you will see ads and content that relates to those habits. To me, that isn't an issue and may even be a benefit. Yes, I might get more ads for RVs and hard core narcotics, but at least I am not bombarded with ads for feminine hygiene products and children's toys.
No one is taking the time to watch your webcam. They are not secretly recording your conversations and playing them back at their secret black ops dinners. You can be assured of this because you are not interesting enough for that to be of any value, entertainment-wise or otherwise. All that data mining, data sharing and data storing is done for one reason, to make it easier for them to attempt to get you to part with your money. And as far as I am concerned, if data mining makes it easier for me to find the goods and services I want, that is an advantage.

It's ok, if that is what you believe and BTW, that IS what THEY want you to believe everything will be just fine. :B:C

Then what do you believe they are trying to do? Knowing every single minute detail of my life wouldn't benefit anyone one iota. If they are all seeing and all powerful, what would I have that they could want? My 60 inch TV? Doubt it, they probably have one much bigger and better. Do they want to somehow cheat me out of my parks? it would be a lot easier and cheaper to just buy them or use eminent domain to seize them then it would to study all my various rantings and figure some way to beat me out of them. And why the heck would someone who had the world at their fingertips want an RV park in the first place?
It is my experience that people who see grand conspiracies everywhere see them because it is more palatable to believe their own shortcomings are the fault of some grand scheme conspiring against them than it is to realize their shortcomings are their own fault. Throughout history people have blamed politics, the weather, their bosses, immigrants, their heritage and countless other things they don't control as a reason they haven't reached the level of success they had hoped to obtain. Occam's Razor is almost always correct. The simplest explanation is the correct explanation. In my opinion that holds true as to data collection. They want to sell you stuff, plain and simple. They don't want to develop some spider web of data to somehow control your thoughts and actions beyond that simple goal.

Well it looks like they have done a very fine job of dumbing down America. :C

Then please enlighten us doubting Thomases as to the truth.
And while you are at it, if the truth is so dangerous, why haven't they just shut down you and all the other truth tellers. If they have the power and desire to collect, compile, organize and use for their unsavory purposes all this information they are gathering on the great unwashed, wouldn't they be able to simply press a button and silence the collective voices of all people like you who know the real truth?