Apple outed for intentionally slowing phones

[T18skyguy]

A tech researcher discovered code that intentionally slows older Iphones. Apple claims it's needed for power consumption for older lithium ion batteries. It affects all Iphones up to the Iphone 7. Meanwhile, Android suffers no such manipulation with the same batteries. :R You be the judge

[crcr]

TechWriter wrote:

Ductape wrote:
When my old Samsung began to need charging before a full day's use I knew it was time to buy a battery. They didn't surreptitiously slow the processor to conceal evidence of battery degradation.

Right. Samsung didn't slow down its phones . . . they just burst into flames.

BOTH Apple and Android phones have had catching on fire issues.

[T18skyguy]

TechWriter wrote:

Ductape wrote:
When my old Samsung began to need charging before a full day's use I knew it was time to buy a battery. They didn't surreptitiously slow the processor to conceal evidence of battery degradation.

Right. Samsung didn't slow down its phones . . . they just burst into flames.

The flaming battery problem, and the aging/slowing issue, are two separate and unrelated problems. Samsung doesn't intentionally slow their phones because their worried about the phone "crashing". I would cut Apple more slack on this, but their even doing it to the Iphone 6, which is only 3 years old. That period to period Iphone activation's are down(only 1%),compared to last year, does not help buttress their argument. I have both Apple and Android phones in the family. I like them both. Same with computers.

[TechWriter]

Ductape wrote:
When my old Samsung began to need charging before a full day's use I knew it was time to buy a battery. They didn't surreptitiously slow the processor to conceal evidence of battery degradation.

Right. Samsung didn't slow down its phones . . . they just burst into flames.

[magicbus]

Ahhh... favorite flavor Kool-aid. :B. Just kidding., whatever works for you!

Dave

[northshore]

Wife and I both have apple iPhone 6 neither of us have noticed any difference in performance or battery life. For us, in the real world, the whole battery/ performance slow down is just blah blah blah, can't get excited about it in the least.
We have Apple MacBook pros, for us the build quality, the support, the reliability are all reasons for us to continue using Apple.
We use to have android phones, and toshiba/dell laptops, I resisted going to Apple for years, I thought they were too invasive, too expensive, too trendy. We started with an iPad and really liked it, and have bought Apple ever since. I think about going back to the Dell laptops but every time i pick up my MacBook Pro Im glad I bought it.

[jerem0621]

I've been an avid Apple user for year. I have a 6 year old MacBook Pro. There are some false things being said as absolutes.

My Mac has aftermarket Ram. I upgraded to 8 GB before I walked out of the store when I bought it. This past year I upgraded the HD to a 1TB drive... Aftermarket drive at that.

I can order nearly any part I need for this computer off of the internet.

I upgraded my OS X to High Sierra a few days ago. I can say that my computer actually runs better with High Sierra.

I have an iPhone 6S Plus and will admit when I upgraded to iOS 11 on the day of release it did cause my battery life to degrade rapidly. I am now running iOS 11.2 and the phone is running great now.

For me, the features that iOS 11 bring is worth having to grab a charger a little quicker. It's a fantastic OS.

I do have an iPad Air 2 as well. I am thinking about selling it. It runs iOS 11 but it did have a few bugs with the split screen multi-tasking. That has been ironed out with the 11.2 update though. I mostly use it for my sermons and use it while preaching. Any tablet could do this.

I am moving away from Apple in some ways. I bought a 17 inch Acer Laptop which my wife promptly claimed. I plan on building a nice desktop computer soon and it will be a Windows 10 machine.

I also bought a used LG G5 Android Phone on a whim recently and I really like it. Once I booted it up and activated it I was able to do a software update.

Thanks!

Jeremiah

[fj12ryder]

Ductape wrote:
https://www.cnet.com/news/apple-sorry-iphone-battery-slowdown-ios-update-official/

Credit where due, Apple's response. Discount on batteries and visibility of battery performance.

You know what they say: "It's easier to ask for forgiveness than permission."

[Ductape]

https://www.cnet.com/news/apple-sorry-iphone-battery-slowdown-ios-update-official/

Credit where due, Apple's response. Discount on batteries and visibility of battery performance.

[wnjj]

fj12ryder wrote:

wnjj wrote:
... Apple is likely the only company admitting to doing this...or they are simply too close to the limits even with a good battery.

Hard to actually say Apple is admitting to it since they didn't own up to it until they were actually caught at it.

Fair enough. "Forced to admit it". 😉

[camperforlife]

Bob Shaw wrote:
All I know is that my iphone7s worked pretty well until I updated to ios 11. Now it is virtually unusable, and eats the battery much faster than it did before the update. Sometimes it will actually feel very warm when I wasn't even using it. I guess it's time to go to Android.

Sounds like something is not shutting down properly. I actually prefer an Android phone but I am currently using an iPhone 7 because of the superior battery life.

[fj12ryder]

wnjj wrote:
... Apple is likely the only company admitting to doing this...or they are simply too close to the limits even with a good battery.

Hard to actually say Apple is admitting to it since they didn't own up to it until they were actually caught at it.

[wnjj]

Ductape wrote:
Not the same thing at all. When my old Samsung began to need charging before a full day's use I knew it was time to buy a battery. They didn't surreptitiously slow the processor to conceal evidence of battery degradation.

Apple could have just as easily popped up a dialog and asked the user to select full power with more frequent charging vs. reduced power with infrequent charging.

According to Apple, it isn't a matter of reduced battery life. It's about not crashing the phone when the aged battery can't provide the peak current. A crashing phone that needs restarted is a far more unpleasant experience than a slow phone. Apple is likely the only company admitting to doing this...or they are simply too close to the limits even with a good battery.

[wnjj]

Bob Shaw wrote:
All I know is that my iphone7s worked pretty well until I updated to ios 11. Now it is virtually unusable, and eats the battery much faster than it did before the update. Sometimes it will actually feel very warm when I wasn't even using it. I guess it's time to go to Android.

Sounds like my old Galaxy S4, when it was less than 2 years old. Got hot all of the time. I have an S7 now but we also have iPhones and iPads in the house.

Both ecosystems are great and both suck...for different reasons.

[crcr]

Someone stated earlier that Android phones seldom receive OS updates. That has not been true in my experience. I am on Verizon, with a Note 4, which was released in Oct of 2014. I still get regular OS updates.