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4huskers
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I have a VP211z receiver that I bought with the Tailgater. What brand or type of hard drive are you all using to record programs? Thanks
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AllegroD
Nomad
Nomad
JohnG3 wrote:
Kiwi_too wrote:
The device you put into the 211k is formatted immediately. do not know about the z.


Have the 500G Toshiba unit. The VIP211 (no suffix) would not read/format the drive. Called dish and for $40 they sent an update/upgrade so it will format/read the drive. Have not been to the trailer to hook it all up yet.

The Toshiba did format with the 211k with DVR at home.

Dish tech support did say to store anything you have on that remote drive to a source you can retreive it as formatting will erase everything on the protable drive.


Yes. I am sorry. Assumed that you already had thed DVR program. It is a one time program fee.

lbrjet
Explorer
Explorer
We have a 211Z, a Tailgater and use a 2TB Seagate with its own power source and have to use the USB 2.0 connection. The 2.0 USB interface is required by Dish so make sure your hard drive handles 2.0. Ours is 2.0 and 3.0 compatible.
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JohnG3
Explorer II
Explorer II
Kiwi_too wrote:
The device you put into the 211k is formatted immediately. do not know about the z.


Have the 500G Toshiba unit. The VIP211 (no suffix) would not read/format the drive. Called dish and for $40 they sent an update/upgrade so it will format/read the drive. Have not been to the trailer to hook it all up yet.

The Toshiba did format with the 211k with DVR at home.

Dish tech support did say to store anything you have on that remote drive to a source you can retreive it as formatting will erase everything on the protable drive.
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thestoloffs
Explorer
Explorer
JohnG3 wrote:
DOTLDaddy wrote:
JohnG3 wrote:
DOTLDaddy wrote:
I have been using this thing for a couple of years now:

Buffalo Ministation

Mine is the 500gb version, and I have never even come close to filling it up. Of course, I also don't just keep recording stuff and never deleting it either. If you are one of those kind of people, it comes in a 1tb version as well.

I like it because:
  1. It is small
  2. It is USB powered, hence no power cube to plug in
  3. It has never failed me
  4. Last but not least, it was inexpensive


Will this work using an iPhone or iPad charging cube with the USB connection?

I am not sure what your are asking here . . .

The post above says the 211k or z box recommends NOT using a storage device that is powered by the 211 box USB connection. While clarifying my question I figured out why it doesn't make sense. You cannot hook up both the USB charging cube AND the usb connection to the 211 box.

Will it work on the home satellite/receiver to record programs/movies then taken to the RV for playback?

Like the previous poster mentioned, whatever hard drive you use will be formatted for use only with the 211 receiver. I am 99% sure it cannot then be plugged into any other device for playback purposes.


So I have a VIP 211K at home and a 211z in the RV. If I were to plug the storage device into the 211K at home and record movies/programs, can I then take it to the RV and plug it into the 211z and watch the recorded movies while camping?


I've tried this with our 211K and 1TB HD; it doesn't work!

When the receiver formats the HD during its initial DVR setup, it encrypts the receiver's Electronic Serial Number (ESN) into the HD's Sector 0 (starting sector). If that ESN doesn't match the ESN on the receiver, it's "Game over"!

AllegroD
Nomad
Nomad
I have not heard of anyone doing this. You may have to test and tell us.

JohnG3
Explorer II
Explorer II
DOTLDaddy wrote:
JohnG3 wrote:
DOTLDaddy wrote:
I have been using this thing for a couple of years now:

Buffalo Ministation

Mine is the 500gb version, and I have never even come close to filling it up. Of course, I also don't just keep recording stuff and never deleting it either. If you are one of those kind of people, it comes in a 1tb version as well.

I like it because:
  1. It is small
  2. It is USB powered, hence no power cube to plug in
  3. It has never failed me
  4. Last but not least, it was inexpensive


Will this work using an iPhone or iPad charging cube with the USB connection?

I am not sure what your are asking here . . .

The post above says the 211k or z box recommends NOT using a storage device that is powered by the 211 box USB connection. While clarifying my question I figured out why it doesn't make sense. You cannot hook up both the USB charging cube AND the usb connection to the 211 box.

Will it work on the home satellite/receiver to record programs/movies then taken to the RV for playback?

Like the previous poster mentioned, whatever hard drive you use will be formatted for use only with the 211 receiver. I am 99% sure it cannot then be plugged into any other device for playback purposes.


So I have a VIP 211K at home and a 211z in the RV. If I were to plug the storage device into the 211K at home and record movies/programs, can I then take it to the RV and plug it into the 211z and watch the recorded movies while camping?
John and Elaine. Furry ones, Bubba, Buddy, Barney and Miss Chevious
2017 Tiffin Allegro Bus 40 SP
Know guns, know safety, know peace. No guns, no safety, no peace.

DOTLDaddy
Nomad
Nomad
sfischer wrote:
... but I believe my 211k advises to only use an external HD as a DVR which has an external power connection. No passing the power via USB....
If that is what they recommend, then there are exceptions to the rule. The USB powered Buffalo Mini-station I have been using for two years would be one of those.

I hate using devices that require those danged power cubes.
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DOTLDaddy
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JohnG3 wrote:
DOTLDaddy wrote:
I have been using this thing for a couple of years now:

Buffalo Ministation

Mine is the 500gb version, and I have never even come close to filling it up. Of course, I also don't just keep recording stuff and never deleting it either. If you are one of those kind of people, it comes in a 1tb version as well.

I like it because:
  1. It is small
  2. It is USB powered, hence no power cube to plug in
  3. It has never failed me
  4. Last but not least, it was inexpensive


Will this work using an iPhone or iPad charging cube with the USB connection?

I am not sure what your are asking here . . .

Will it work on the home satellite/receiver to record programs/movies then taken to the RV for playback?

Like the previous poster mentioned, whatever hard drive you use will be formatted for use only with the 211 receiver. I am 99% sure it cannot then be plugged into any other device for playback purposes.

Walter & Garland - Camp Canine caretakers
Miss Inga (aka "Shorty") - 10 y.o. old GSD.
Gen. Gretchen - Joined Rainbow Div., June 27, 2017 at age 13
Gen. Missy - Joined Rainbow Div., June 11,2006 at age 12
2018 Montana HC305RL 5th wheel
2018 Silverado HD 6.0L

AllegroD
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Nomad
The device you put into the 211k is formatted immediately. do not know about the z.

JohnG3
Explorer II
Explorer II
DOTLDaddy wrote:
I have been using this thing for a couple of years now:

Buffalo Ministation

Mine is the 500gb version, and I have never even come close to filling it up. Of course, I also don't just keep recording stuff and never deleting it either. If you are one of those kind of people, it comes in a 1tb version as well.

I like it because:
  1. It is small
  2. It is USB powered, hence no power cube to plug in
  3. It has never failed me
  4. Last but not least, it was inexpensive


Will this work using an iPhone or iPad charging cube with the USB connection?

Will it work on the home satellite/receiver to record programs/movies then taken to the RV for playback?
John and Elaine. Furry ones, Bubba, Buddy, Barney and Miss Chevious
2017 Tiffin Allegro Bus 40 SP
Know guns, know safety, know peace. No guns, no safety, no peace.

richheck
Explorer
Explorer
I use the WD My Book AV DVR Expander 1 TB USB 2.0/eSATA External Hard Drive from Amazon (around $95.00) that is suggested by Dish for the 211K.

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AllegroD
Nomad
Nomad
Sorry but I should have stated that mine is 211k.

sfischer
Explorer
Explorer
Can't speak for the 211z, but I believe my 211k advises to only use an external HD as a DVR which has an external power connection. No passing the power via USB. I am currently using a WD 750gb drive which I had sitting around for several years of previous use with my computer.
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Dutch_12078
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Explorer II
I use a 1TB Western Digital "My Book AV DVR Expander" with my 211k. It's one of the Dish recommended drives.
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