windows 10

Doesn't matter. I'm having problems with it functioning properly with no solution, so it goes. Not saying I have no use 10 ever again, Just not at this time. Besides, unless you're willing to put up with the bugs, it's generally not a good idea to immediately jump in with any new OS.

2oldman wrote:
Taken out of context, yes, it does look ominous.

In context, too.

joeshmoe wrote:
"we will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders)"

Taken out of context, yes, it does look ominous.

2oldman wrote:

joeshmoe wrote:
Why is it that some people are so blasé about it?

What about that statement you quoted above is so disturbing?

"we will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders)"

I didn't say disturbing. I said alarming. You're not one of these "If you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to worry about" people?

Actually, I don't care if you are or not. Doesn't change a thing for me. I could go into detail about why it's bad and getting worse, but I don't care to do that here or anywhere online. Like I said, if you're ok with it, fine by me.

Thank you Tom_M for the download link. Updated my laptop yesterday and everything seems to be working well. There are a few programs that do not work with Windows 10 but probably will after a while.
Will wait for a while before I update my desktop computer.

It is going to take some getting used to on my part. I have been using Windows 7 since it came out so this new look is quite different for me. Kind of fun finding out how things work again.
Barney

joeshmoe wrote:
Why is it that some people are so blasé about it?

What about that statement you quoted above is so disturbing?

2oldman wrote:
Why is it that with every new MS product, the world is coming to an end?

What are you talking about?

Some people care about privacy. If you don't, fine. Why is it that some people are so blasé about it?

2oldman wrote:
Why is it that with every new MS product, the world is coming to an end?

It's because Microsoft corporate, all of their suppliers, and distribution outlets that they strongarm launch a massive PR campaign proclaiming if you don't switch some very bad things will happen to you. In my eyes it's not a whole lot different that the car companies pressuring and shaming you for driving a car more than a few years old. Like with so many other things, just follow the money. I'm not saying that the new one is or isn't an improvement. If security from hackers is so darn important, why does the default installation have people running 100% of the time in Administrator mode? This is IMO the single biggest security hole, requires zero per-unit production cost to change, and neither Microsoft or the system manufacturers do it.

Why is it that with every new MS product, the world is coming to an end?

switching back to win7. Having issues with video playing that weren't there previously. Maybe it's just hardware compatibility. Don't know. Don't care. All I know is my PC was working fine before, now it's not. Plus, I'm reading more about the privacy issues. I'm sure Google does the same thing. Prefer not to have my personal communications spread far and wide across multiple severs, if I can help it.

From the link that was posted:

Finally, we will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary to: 1.comply with applicable law or respond to valid legal process, including from law enforcement or other government agencies; 2.protect our customers, for example to prevent spam or attempts to defraud users of the services, or to help prevent the loss of life or serious injury of anyone; 3.operate and maintain the security of our services, including to prevent or stop an attack on our computer systems or networks; or 4.protect the rights or property of Microsoft, including enforcing the terms governing the use of the services – however, if we receive information indicating that someone is using our services to traffic in stolen intellectual or physical property of Microsoft, we will not inspect a customer’s private content ourselves, but we may refer the matter to law enforcement.

I realize for the tech savvy, you can opt-out, but the fact that you're opted-in and that this language exits, is a little alarming.

They can do essentially whatever they want with YOUR info and emails/communication. It basically becomes THEIR info. What if they decide your particular viewpoint is considered questionable or the Microsoft bots scan your stuff for "select" words and notify law enforcement? I don't like where our privacy rights are going. Haven't for long time.