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holliswood
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I cannot find the gray water tank nor the outlet,I can only find the black water tank outlet I have never seen a camper that has only one valve I can't believe the gray water goes into the black water tank
thanks for your help.
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beemerphile1
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chainegang wrote:
The Xplorer Class B's built on Dodge chassis of that vintage were all Marine toilets. There is no underbelly tank. The tank is part of the toilet itself and is emptied via a dump valve that is along side the grey water dump valve....


Yuk! A recirculating toilet. I had one of those once and hated it, you are flushing the toilet with urine!
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tenbear
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holliswood wrote:
I will try filling the tolet then the sink with the valve open ,see what happens. thank you.


Well, what did you find out? :h
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tatest
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The gray tank - black tank configuration came into being sometime in the middle of RV history, but it is certainly not the only configuration ever used, and not the only configuration used today.

Many early RVs had a single tank, some for everything, some for the toilet only, letting gray water drain to the ground immediately. Many tent campers today are still configured this way, black tank only, whether portable or permanent. If you can't drain gray to the ground, you have to catch it in something.

Gray tanks became common practice when bathtubs and showers started becoming RV features. A shower usually spills too much water for it all to go to the ground at once. A gray tank lets you either hold it, or let it dribble on the campsite through a slightly open valve.

As fewer and fewer places permit you to dribble gray water, the value of having a separate gray is lost. We could see RVs soon going back to that single large tank configuration, which has not entirely disappeared.

Many large commercial travel coaches use a single large holding tank for all liquid waste. This gets past the problem that one of the tanks fills up long before the other, depending how the facilities are used. There is usually someplace under the floor with room for one very big tank, the space is heated and there is room to run plumbing to the tank. No need to build separate tanks immediately under kitchen, toilets, showers as we see in RVs.

Some smaller RVs, B's could be included, are also easier to fit with a single waste tank than with two separate tanks each of adequate size. Or some really old ones might be like the pop-ups, the gray just goes right to the ground.

At the other end of the scale, some large RVs today might have three or more holding tanks, depending on how many bathrooms and where they are located relative to the kitchen. There might be two grays and a black, two blacks and a gray, or even two of each. It is easier to put a small tank under each point of water use than try to drain to something remote. Downside is that plumbing for dump locations and dump valves gets complicated, RV users have to learn complex dump procedures like "empty this one first then empty the one on the other side."
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chainegang
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The Xplorer Class B's built on Dodge chassis of that vintage were all Marine toilets. There is no underbelly tank. The tank is part of the toilet itself and is emptied via a dump valve that is along side the grey water dump valve. This type is charged with 3 gallons of water and an 8 oz container of toilet deoderant such as Aqua Kem. From the writers description of the propane set-up, it sounds like this is an Xplorer model 228.

tenbear
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holliswood wrote:
I will try filling the toilet then the sink with the valve open ,see what happens. thank you.


In my RV the bathroom sink is plumbed into the black tank. So try the kitchen sink or shower to be sure.
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holliswood
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I will try filling the tolet then the sink with the valve open ,see what happens. thank you.

Dutch_12078
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It's been awhile since I worked on a Dodge Xplorer Class B of that vintage, but I seem to recall that they only had a single waste tank. I don't recall at all where a fresh tank drain might be.
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tenbear
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If your tanks are empty you could try flushing the toilet and see if it comes out the one drain, then turn on the shower and see where it comes out. If everything comes out the same drain, well...
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Ron3rd
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They still make trailers where the grey dumps into the black, ie one tank.
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holliswood
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I have a1990 dodge xplorer class B & I can't find the gray water tank nor its drain valve I also can't find the fresh water drains. I am not new to campers as I have had more than 8 of them from popups to class a and now a class B xporer . I am 84 years old and I had a hard time finding the propane in let .its under the rear side door under the running board. I don't believe I will be able to reach it. Sorry to take up so much of your time but I thank you for your input.

holliswood
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I have a1990 dodge xplorer class B & I can't find the gray water tank nor its drain valve

wa8yxm
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On most campers there is but one outlet, NOW on SOME campers there are 3 dump vavles.. Black, Gray, and "Main"

Follow the pipe back, if it comes first to a valve, that is a "Main" More on this later,, continue to follow it back, sooner or later it should split into two lines, one big, one small, the big one is the black tank it too should have a valve, the small one is the gray, and another vavle there too

To use.. Hook up and open main valve.

Dump black tank (open valve)

Dump gray (open valve)

Close all valves

To rinse black tank using contents of gray

Open main valve,

Dump black tank

CLOSE MAIN VALVE

Open gray valve

Count to 10

Close gray and open black and main

Do this again

Then open gray and main to finish dumping gray

And close all valves when done.
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skipnchar
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More information would be a big help but it's been about 50 years since I've seen any 'single tank' RVs of any kind so unless you have a really old one, one tank is not likely. You MAY have one that has an internal valve that still dumps out the one OPENING under your RV however but the valve could be inside or outside but would have to be separate.
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tenbear
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You may be able to get under the camper and see the tanks. If so, follow the drains and see where they go.

Like Dutchmen said, we need more info.
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