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Terrible Trucks

Jayco-noslide
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No doubt I'll get lots of disagreement on this. Just wondering how many young people on a budget are buying those nice trucks at $40000 and up; way up for a 1 ton diesel. And financing them for as many years as a home. Economically a bad choice. For starters the purchase price is up there with amazing luxury and sport vehicles and 2 to 3 times many really nice vehicles.. Brutal depreciation follows. Secondly, about half as far on each gallon as a compact car or even a small SUV. So the overall cost of ownership must be huge. Yes, sometimes we need a truck, such as for a 5th wheel or heavy trailer. I've done that but then my (used) truck was my only vehicle. I guess I don't have a point here except I worry for those that don't really know what's it's costing them. Also, lighter, vehicles with small lightweight engines are way greener if you care about that sort of thing. OK. I'm not perfect with my 30 ft. V-10 MH towing a Ford Focus.
Jayco-noslide
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Walaby
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This isn't the first post that Jayco expressed his opinion on how others spend their money.

Notice he hasn't come back either to participate in the discussion. Just more pot stirring.

I have no need, plan, or desire to discuss my personal financial decisions with anyone on the inter-web. Nor do I care how anyone else spends their money.

Mike
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sayoung
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westernrvparkowner wrote:
sayoung wrote:
We have a couple we run around with, the wife has allways traded her car in for a new one at 30,000 miles no matter and has had a payment for over 40 years. She believes she will allways have a car payment. He gets a new truck every 3 years period. Just as my DW & I don't understand the logic, they don't understand us driving cars/trucks for 10to 15 years & just paying cash/trade for a new one .and have found some deals on a 2/3 year old vehicle at times.
It's not that goods & services are too expensive, it's your money is worthless. We never should have quit backing our money with gold & silver.
Did I miss something? Are your friends on welfare or eating dog food while you are enjoying a steak dinner? If not, it sounds like they are enjoying things that are important to them using that "worthless" money. What does the being off the gold standard have to do with anything? And why do you consider US currency "worthless"? You can use it to obtain almost anything your heart desires, including gold and silver. It has been my experience that the people who complain that US currency is worthless are people that don't have any.


My point of my friends spending vs mine is just different views people have about transportation and other areas.They don't mind being indebt in their mid sixtys and keep saying they can't retire. I prefer being retired, no debt, & yes we have a few bucks stashed but what we have may seem like we are paupers and to another we are uber rich. Do you understand now ?

westernrvparkow
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Explorer
Bert Ackerman wrote:
westernrvparkowner wrote:
ScottG wrote:
gbopp wrote:
ScottG wrote:
A luxury vehicle that costs $75k weighs what? 5000#?
A new truck that costs $75K weighs 8000#+.

So you get more for your money with a truck. 😉

Can we assume you sell trucks for a living :@


Ohh no! I've never been good at selling anything.
Here's the scary thing.. I bought my truck new in Oct. 2002 for $36K (sticker $42K). Now a similar truck is about 60K.
And in 2002 the median household income was $40,125, today it is over $60,000. So the increase in the price of trucks is almost in lockstep with the increase in household income. Sure wish healthcare and college education costs behaved as reasonably.


And a loaf of bread that was $1.19 in 2002, is now $1.89. When mom sent me to get it I didn't have a $75K truck. I had to walk there 4 miles in the snow, with no shoes, uphill both ways.
But you have to admit that having no shoes came in handy when you had to ford the raging river.

Terryallan
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Explorer II
Bert Ackerman wrote:
westernrvparkowner wrote:
ScottG wrote:
gbopp wrote:
ScottG wrote:
A luxury vehicle that costs $75k weighs what? 5000#?
A new truck that costs $75K weighs 8000#+.

So you get more for your money with a truck. 😉

Can we assume you sell trucks for a living :@


Ohh no! I've never been good at selling anything.
Here's the scary thing.. I bought my truck new in Oct. 2002 for $36K (sticker $42K). Now a similar truck is about 60K.
And in 2002 the median household income was $40,125, today it is over $60,000. So the increase in the price of trucks is almost in lockstep with the increase in household income. Sure wish healthcare and college education costs behaved as reasonably.


And a loaf of bread that was $1.19 in 2002, is now $1.89. When mom sent me to get it I didn't have a $75K truck. I had to walk there 4 miles in the snow, with no shoes, uphill both ways.


where you getting your bread. a loaf here is $2.59.
Terry & Shay
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Terryallan
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Explorer II
TRUTH. If a man has a house, A man needs a truck. They are just so much more flexible. You can do everything with a truck, that you can do with a car or SUV. But you can't do with a car or SUV, what you can do with a truck.

And honestly. This being a camping website. How many on here tow their 30' TT, or 5er with a SUV, or car? And on top of that. It's their money. They can spend it however they please. No business of mine. Some even buy Chevys, or Dodges. But I don't judge them.
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Bert_Ackerman
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Explorer
westernrvparkowner wrote:
ScottG wrote:
gbopp wrote:
ScottG wrote:
A luxury vehicle that costs $75k weighs what? 5000#?
A new truck that costs $75K weighs 8000#+.

So you get more for your money with a truck. 😉

Can we assume you sell trucks for a living :@


Ohh no! I've never been good at selling anything.
Here's the scary thing.. I bought my truck new in Oct. 2002 for $36K (sticker $42K). Now a similar truck is about 60K.
And in 2002 the median household income was $40,125, today it is over $60,000. So the increase in the price of trucks is almost in lockstep with the increase in household income. Sure wish healthcare and college education costs behaved as reasonably.


And a loaf of bread that was $1.19 in 2002, is now $1.89. When mom sent me to get it I didn't have a $75K truck. I had to walk there 4 miles in the snow, with no shoes, uphill both ways.

Grit_dog
Navigator
Navigator
ScottG wrote:
A luxury vehicle that costs $75k weighs what? 5000#?
A new truck that costs $75K weighs 8000#+.

So you get more for your money with a truck. 😉


Less dollars per pound! It's like the big trucks are on sale! I like it!
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rexlion
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It would be so much more sensible to tow a MyPod with a used Jetta diesel or Chevy Cobalt. 😉
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westernrvparkow
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Explorer
sayoung wrote:
We have a couple we run around with, the wife has allways traded her car in for a new one at 30,000 miles no matter and has had a payment for over 40 years. She believes she will allways have a car payment. He gets a new truck every 3 years period. Just as my DW & I don't understand the logic, they don't understand us driving cars/trucks for 10to 15 years & just paying cash/trade for a new one .and have found some deals on a 2/3 year old vehicle at times.
It's not that goods & services are too expensive, it's your money is worthless. We never should have quit backing our money with gold & silver.
Did I miss something? Are your friends on welfare or eating dog food while you are enjoying a steak dinner? If not, it sounds like they are enjoying things that are important to them using that "worthless" money. What does the being off the gold standard have to do with anything? And why do you consider US currency "worthless"? You can use it to obtain almost anything your heart desires, including gold and silver. It has been my experience that the people who complain that US currency is worthless are people that don't have any.

Crowe
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Explorer
What business is it of yours? How other people spend their money should be of no concern to you. I guess I just don't understand why people concern themselves with other people's affairs. I'm cracking up at those of you who are defending YOUR spending habits to someone who's opinion is not relevant.

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sayoung
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Explorer
We have a couple we run around with, the wife has allways traded her car in for a new one at 30,000 miles no matter and has had a payment for over 40 years. She believes she will allways have a car payment. He gets a new truck every 3 years period. Just as my DW & I don't understand the logic, they don't understand us driving cars/trucks for 10to 15 years & just paying cash/trade for a new one .and have found some deals on a 2/3 year old vehicle at times.
It's not that goods & services are too expensive, it's your money is worthless. We never should have quit backing our money with gold & silver.

I buy what I want, when I want and make sure I can afford it before I sign on the line... My goal is that If I can pay it off in 2 years, Im in...

And the best part is..... I really don't care what others say or do... it's their money, their decisions.. You wanna play, you gotta pay.... :B
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mich800
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westernrvparkowner wrote:
ScottG wrote:
gbopp wrote:
ScottG wrote:
A luxury vehicle that costs $75k weighs what? 5000#?
A new truck that costs $75K weighs 8000#+.

So you get more for your money with a truck. 😉

Can we assume you sell trucks for a living :@


Ohh no! I've never been good at selling anything.
Here's the scary thing.. I bought my truck new in Oct. 2002 for $36K (sticker $42K). Now a similar truck is about 60K.
And in 2002 the median household income was $40,125, today it is over $60,000. So the increase in the price of trucks is almost in lockstep with the increase in household income. Sure wish healthcare and college education costs behaved as reasonably.


Thank you, it's nice to keep things in perspective. I remember when it was a big deal when a neighbor, friend or relative got a new vehicle. Now it is common place. So the price of vehicles must not be outpacing the income gains for families.

Lynnmor
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I wish we could mind our own business. People that spend excessively and then have a net worth of zero, at some point might lean on the taxpayers to keep them in some circumstance or old age. My business should not be aiding those that are irresponsible.

Bird_Freak
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Explorer II
I'm missing something here. I see no terrible trucks, just some high priced ones but they are all overpriced now. I also don't see why the op is so concerned how other people handle their finances.
I like to mind my on business.
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