โApr-07-2020 09:47 AM
โApr-08-2020 03:10 PM
ford truck guy wrote:
" Their Side " ?? :h
SO this virus IS IN FACT a political virus,?? I had no idea....
and here I thought we were all in tis together ??
โApr-08-2020 03:07 PM
way2roll wrote:
How does one strike a "balance" about the number of people dying over the number of people losing their job? Is there a threshold or ratio you have in mind? You loosen controls to let people work, more people die. It's a sliding scale.
โApr-08-2020 03:05 PM
โApr-08-2020 03:03 PM
ford truck guy wrote:
" Their Side " ?? :h
SO this virus IS IN FACT a political virus,?? I had no idea....
and here I thought we were all in this together ??
โApr-08-2020 02:55 PM
โApr-08-2020 02:47 PM
โApr-08-2020 02:29 PM
way2roll wrote:Then why did you post the percentage as if it mattered? The point is that if you consider the total number of people infected, not the number tested positive, but the total number of people infected, then the fatality rate starts to approach that of the flu.tommyznr wrote:ford truck guy wrote:fj12ryder wrote:ford truck guy wrote:Honestly you need to quit posting percentages as they are meaningless unless you can quote the number of infected. Actual numbers of infected, not the numbers tested.
From Johns Hopkins -
NY:
city - 76,876 cases - 4009 deaths
Long Island - 16,610 cases - 500 deaths
West Chester - 14,804 cases- 283 deaths
Totals for NY - 93,760 confirmed - 4792 deaths... 5%
click
honestly, click on the attachment, I won't do your work for you. that click has everything you need... And if you don't like my posts, don't read them
It is not that you are posting the numbers, it is that the numbers are very limited in usefulness. The number of confirmed cases is essentially an arbitrary number which makes the 5% mortality rate useless.
Who cares about the rate? As of yesterday 13,000 of your fellow Americans are dead. The numbers keep climbing.
โApr-08-2020 02:16 PM
โApr-08-2020 01:43 PM
tommyznr wrote:ford truck guy wrote:fj12ryder wrote:ford truck guy wrote:Honestly you need to quit posting percentages as they are meaningless unless you can quote the number of infected. Actual numbers of infected, not the numbers tested.
From Johns Hopkins -
NY:
city - 76,876 cases - 4009 deaths
Long Island - 16,610 cases - 500 deaths
West Chester - 14,804 cases- 283 deaths
Totals for NY - 93,760 confirmed - 4792 deaths... 5%
click
honestly, click on the attachment, I won't do your work for you. that click has everything you need... And if you don't like my posts, don't read them
It is not that you are posting the numbers, it is that the numbers are very limited in usefulness. The number of confirmed cases is essentially an arbitrary number which makes the 5% mortality rate useless.
โApr-08-2020 01:23 PM
ford truck guy wrote:fj12ryder wrote:ford truck guy wrote:Honestly you need to quit posting percentages as they are meaningless unless you can quote the number of infected. Actual numbers of infected, not the numbers tested.
From Johns Hopkins -
NY:
city - 76,876 cases - 4009 deaths
Long Island - 16,610 cases - 500 deaths
West Chester - 14,804 cases- 283 deaths
Totals for NY - 93,760 confirmed - 4792 deaths... 5%
click
honestly, click on the attachment, I won't do your work for you. that click has everything you need... And if you don't like my posts, don't read them
โApr-08-2020 01:16 PM
ford truck guy wrote:I don't dislike your posts, but you can't quote percentages unless you have real numbers. You're comparing against positive test results, not the actual number of infected. That is a huge difference. And the attachment can't show the number of actual infected because they don't know.fj12ryder wrote:ford truck guy wrote:Honestly you need to quit posting percentages as they are meaningless unless you can quote the number of infected. Actual numbers of infected, not the numbers tested.
From Johns Hopkins -
NY:
city - 76,876 cases - 4009 deaths
Long Island - 16,610 cases - 500 deaths
West Chester - 14,804 cases- 283 deaths
Totals for NY - 93,760 confirmed - 4792 deaths... 5%
click
honestly, click on the attachment, I won't do your work for you. that click has everything you need... And if you don't like my posts, don't read them
โApr-08-2020 12:54 PM
bid_time wrote:6door74 wrote:I donโt think anyone โcould care less about everyone else's health". People like me are very supportive of social distancing and other measures to fight coronavirus. We also will likely continue such measures well into the future. However, the fight against coronavirus is coming at a heavy economic cost. These costs can not be ignored. They can be deferred, but sooner or later they are going to inflict a heavy toll, especially to the less fortunate. And the longer the economic costs are deferred or given short shrift, the bigger and bigger the toll gets.bid_time wrote:6door74 wrote:That is the most crass statement I have read in the last 10 pages. 10 Million people lost there job in the last 2 Weeks. Let that sink in for a minute.
...Hopefully those suffering financially can find a way to recover and get back on their feet or just get things back in normal order (myself included). Bankruptcy hasn't stopped others from getting to the top. ๐
Hope you feel that way about the people who could care less about everyone else's health and complain about the effort to curb this.
My reply wasn't meant to be crass so I apologize if it came off that way. Like I said, I've been affected in this way as well. Thankfully not as much as others. There was some sarcasm for a specific situation at the end, and maybe it was in poor taste. For that I apologize as well. Bankruptcy isn't fun, can be devastating, and should be a last resort. However, it's not the end of the world, death is.
When I read your post, this is what it said to me: โf*** those that lost their jobs (hope they find another one), but the only thing that matters is how many people dieโ โ (even if they are old and have other serious medical condition and will probably die in 5 years anyways) โ the last part is the add on that my mind immediately went to.
How many people die matters, but so do the 10 โ 30 million people that lose their jobs. They also have a life to live, as do their wives and kids who are depending on them. There has to be balance, and I for one think people are not giving balance enough thought.
โApr-08-2020 12:03 PM
dodge guy wrote:pitch wrote:
You guys are freakin amazing. Two months ago you were all economists or constitutional scholars. 45 short days later you all are infectious disease experts. How do ya do it?
Just goes to show how easy it is to become one! No college needed!!!!
โApr-08-2020 11:35 AM
6door74 wrote:I donโt think anyone โcould care less about everyone else's health". People like me are very supportive of social distancing and other measures to fight coronavirus. We also will likely continue such measures well into the future. However, the fight against coronavirus is coming at a heavy economic cost. These costs can not be ignored. They can be deferred, but sooner or later they are going to inflict a heavy toll, especially to the less fortunate. And the longer the economic costs are deferred or given short shrift, the bigger and bigger the toll gets.bid_time wrote:6door74 wrote:That is the most crass statement I have read in the last 10 pages. 10 Million people lost there job in the last 2 Weeks. Let that sink in for a minute.
...Hopefully those suffering financially can find a way to recover and get back on their feet or just get things back in normal order (myself included). Bankruptcy hasn't stopped others from getting to the top. ๐
Hope you feel that way about the people who could care less about everyone else's health and complain about the effort to curb this.
My reply wasn't meant to be crass so I apologize if it came off that way. Like I said, I've been affected in this way as well. Thankfully not as much as others. There was some sarcasm for a specific situation at the end, and maybe it was in poor taste. For that I apologize as well. Bankruptcy isn't fun, can be devastating, and should be a last resort. However, it's not the end of the world, death is.
โApr-08-2020 11:17 AM
wnjj wrote:jdc1 wrote:
Here's the math for the non-believers:
1 person infects three people while camping. Those three people each infect three others. Those 9 people each infect three others. Those 27 people each infect three others. Those 81 people each infect three others. Those 243 people each infect three others. Those 729 people each infect three others. Those 2,187 people each infect three others. That's 6,561 people infected in 8 days because one guy doesn't want to follow simple rules.
Oh. Out of the 6,562 infected people.....66 (1%) end up dying because the rules didn't suit him. Are you going to be one of the 66 dead people?
That makes a nice theoretical story but fortunately that rate of spread and death rate don't match reality. If you really believe it does, no wonder some of you are so outraged at those who would question authority.