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Andersen rail mount and safety chains....

Mike_E_
Explorer II
Explorer II
Hi folks,

Wondering if anybody who has an Andersen rail mount hitch can tell me where they attach their safety chains.....if you have 'em?

Was thinking I might attach a couple eye bolts to the rails before I install them.

Thanks, and Merry Christmas.

Mike
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johndeerefarmer
Explorer III
Explorer III
I use these as I have a gooseneck ball that attaches to my fifth wheel rails.
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GD Reflection 29rs

tinner12002
Explorer
Explorer
goducks10 wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
"No - the Andersen IS NOT a gooseneck hitch."

If it's not then why are using the chains?


Cause it's a ball mount hitch. A true gooseneck has the ball mount in the bed. The Andersen is on the top of the 5th hitch. No gooseneck pin box either.
Of course you already knew that.

The reason for chains is because some states aren't clear on what constitutes chains. Even though it's not a true gooseneck it is a ball mount and will fall under ball mount/coupler laws. JMO at least thats the way I would figure it. Better safe than sorry.


And how was someone suppose to know that he had the Anderson Ultimate hitch from the OPs orig post...I had an Anderson gooseneck hitch that had chain provisions...they do make them...guess the OP maybe should have explained better.
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Second_Chance
Explorer II
Explorer II
BB_TX wrote:
Someone recently posted that the dealer/installer told him he did not need safety chains even though the Andersen uses a ball hitch. His reasoning was that it is not a gooseneck. Not trusting the dealer, he took the hitch info to the DMV and the LEO said chains were required since it is a ball hitch.


There are two states in the U.S. that require chains for the Andersen... and I don't like keeping track of which ones. I just use the chains. In the states that do require them, the law is written using the "ball" terminology and not specific trailer types. Andersen's web site has the exact info, I believe.

Rob
U.S. Army retired
2020 Solitude 310GK-R
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(Previously in a Reflection 337RLS)
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Full-time since 8/2015

BB_TX
Nomad
Nomad
Someone recently posted that the dealer/installer told him he did not need safety chains even though the Andersen uses a ball hitch. His reasoning was that it is not a gooseneck. Not trusting the dealer, he took the hitch info to the DMV and the LEO said chains were required since it is a ball hitch.

Mike_E_
Explorer II
Explorer II
Thanks guys.

If I can't find an eye bolt to use on the rails (there's a lonely hole on each end of the rail) I'll most likely do the loop-around trick for the time being.
Trick will be trying to find an eye bolt with a short enough thread to get a nylock nut on it and not have it hit the bed.

I totally agree....might not be necessary, but why not just have 'em?

Also discovered that I need to upgrade my Driver's Licence if towing over 10K lbs. Ahhh, gonna' have to study a manual to pass the written test.....been a long time since I was faced with some learnin' ๐Ÿ™‚

Thanks again.

IdaD
Explorer
Explorer
Second Chance wrote:
tinner12002 wrote:
I assume your talking about a gooseneck trailer since 5th wheels don't have nor do they require safety chains. The goose hitch I had already had provisions for chains, if yours doesn't then you'll have to add them.


No - the Andersen IS NOT a gooseneck hitch.

OP - I use an Andersen rail mount. Until I purchased the Reese attachment loops that mount in the rails, I just looped the chains around the back legs of the hitch and attached them back to themselves. Never had a problem.

Rob


Thus far I've done just that - looped them around the rear rails. At some point I'll probably buy the rail mounted loops.

Safety chains on a trailer are just a good idea, regardless of whether they're required or what kind of hitch you're using.
2015 Cummins Ram 4wd CC/SB

Farmerjon
Explorer
Explorer
tinner12002 wrote:
I assume your talking about a gooseneck trailer since 5th wheels don't have nor do they require safety chains.


I guess they don't need them because a 5th wheel never ends up wandering around loose in the bed and falling out on the road?
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N-Trouble
Explorer
Explorer
goducks10 wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
"No - the Andersen IS NOT a gooseneck hitch."

If it's not then why are using the chains?


Cause it's a ball mount hitch. A true gooseneck has the ball mount in the bed. The Andersen is on the top of the 5th hitch. No gooseneck pin box either.
Of course you already knew that.

The reason for chains is because some states aren't clear on what constitutes chains. Even though it's not a true gooseneck it is a ball mount and will fall under ball mount/coupler laws. JMO at least thats the way I would figure it. Better safe than sorry.


^^THIS^^
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goducks10
Explorer
Explorer
Cummins12V98 wrote:
"No - the Andersen IS NOT a gooseneck hitch."

If it's not then why are using the chains?


Cause it's a ball mount hitch. A true gooseneck has the ball mount in the bed. The Andersen is on the top of the 5th hitch. No gooseneck pin box either.
Of course you already knew that.

The reason for chains is because some states aren't clear on what constitutes chains. Even though it's not a true gooseneck it is a ball mount and will fall under ball mount/coupler laws. JMO at least thats the way I would figure it. Better safe than sorry.

Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Explorer III
"No - the Andersen IS NOT a gooseneck hitch."

If it's not then why are using the chains?
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Second_Chance
Explorer II
Explorer II
tinner12002 wrote:
I assume your talking about a gooseneck trailer since 5th wheels don't have nor do they require safety chains. The goose hitch I had already had provisions for chains, if yours doesn't then you'll have to add them.


No - the Andersen IS NOT a gooseneck hitch.

OP - I use an Andersen rail mount. Until I purchased the Reese attachment loops that mount in the rails, I just looped the chains around the back legs of the hitch and attached them back to themselves. Never had a problem.

Rob
U.S. Army retired
2020 Solitude 310GK-R
MORryde IS, disc brakes, solar, DP windows
(Previously in a Reflection 337RLS)
2012 F350 CC DRW Lariat 6.7
Full-time since 8/2015

tinner12002
Explorer
Explorer
I assume your talking about a gooseneck trailer since 5th wheels don't have nor do they require safety chains. The goose hitch I had already had provisions for chains, if yours doesn't then you'll have to add them.
2015 Ram 3500/DRW/Aisin/auto/Max tow/4.10s,Cummins, stock Laramie Limited--Silver
Tequila Sunrise 2012 Ultra Classic Limited
2018 Raptor 428SP