Dumping Black Water On The Ground?

[brookside]

At a group on FB this morning, they were discussing dumping black water on the ground. Tell me that this isn't something that is becoming popular! It has been awhile since we have camped but I am hoping it hasn't changed that much. The reasoning came down to the fact that bears poop in the woods. Well, not 30 gallons of raw sewage that has been fermenting in a plastic box for a few days. I just imagine that one day, the black water is dumped on the ground and the camper leaves and then I show up with my dogs, well, you know dogs and then the kids run around barefoot.......... And, frankly, I realized when they got off on comparing the 30 gallons of raw sewage with a pile of bear poop that I wasn't dealing with rocket scientists! I truly feel that if you can't afford the dump station or don't have the foresight to plan around free places to dump that maybe rving isn't for you. I know that dumping tanks and leaving trash is what has already closed many boondocking locations and while they try to blame cities for bans, it is more likely the behavior of a few that are ruining it for everyone else. Seriously, dumping the black tanks on the ground?

[2012Coleman]

At a group on FB this morning, they were discussing dumping black water on the ground. Tell me that this isn't something that is becoming popular!

:h No I can't tell you that, because its not becomming more popular... Your worried about your dog?

[2112]

I own 50 acres of hunting property in Real County Tx so I can only speak of Real County TX law:
IF you OWN 10 acres or greater AND is bordered by undivided 10 acres or greater at all perimeters you are allowed to discharge ALL residential waste onto YOUR property in ANY manner. A minimum of a cesspool is highly recommended but not required.

With that said, most hunters have a hole in the ground with a seat over it, an outhouse or cesspool on their property, if anything.

By the way, FB is FaceBook.

[pa_traveler]

Who wants to share what FB is ?

[dverstra]

Segway to:

Robert Duvall, barechested with dogtags wearing an Airborne cavalry hat, saying "I love the smell of sewage (napalm) in the morning!"

[Bumpyroad]

NJRVer wrote:




If you read through some of those EPA pages it appears that they consider "domestic septage" as the treated remains from the sewer plant.
Besides that this is from 1993 and one page there was a referral to a time limit of 1995 before there is some kind of other compliance required.
That was from just scanning through. I did not read word for word the entire document.

and it requires disking or plowing under within 6 hours.
bumpy

[LarryJM]

Tom N wrote:
Modern sanitation practices is one reason we can live to 100 today, rather the 50 years of age in 1864.

Dumping sewerage on the ground is a 3rd world country practice.

No so long ago ... back in the late 1970's during the extreme Ca. Drought we were encouraged to use all grey water like from Washing Machines and even bath tubs to water the outside yards and gardens. Can't remember the rules on kitchen sink water tho.

Larry

[NJRVer]

EsoxLucius wrote:

Bumpyroad wrote:

i'd like to see a list of states where it is legal to dump human waste on farm fields.
bumpy

http://adph.org/environmental/assets/septage_guide.pdf

http://dnr.wi.gov/files/PDF/forms/3400/3400-053.pdf

"Land application of septage is currently the most commonly used disposal method in the U.S. It is relatively simple and cost-effective, uses low energy, and recycles organic material and nutrients to the land.

With proper management, domestic septage is a resource containing nutrients that can condition the soil and decrease the reliance on chemical fertilizers for agriculture. Septage management maximizes these benefits of septage while protecting public health and the environment.

Land application includes spreading septage from septage hauler trucks, specially designed land application vehicles, or tank wagons onto sites using spray irrigation, ridge and furrow irrigation, and overland flow." US EPA

If you read through some of those EPA pages it appears that they consider "domestic septage" as the treated remains from the sewer plant.
Besides that this is from 1993 and one page there was a referral to a time limit of 1995 before there is some kind of other compliance required.
That was from just scanning through. I did not read word for word the entire document.

[Mr_Beebo]

Can't see how someone can dump blackwater and continue to camp onsite without getting complaints and/or turned in over the smell.

[EsoxLucius]

Bumpyroad wrote:

i'd like to see a list of states where it is legal to dump human waste on farm fields.
bumpy

http://adph.org/environmental/assets/septage_guide.pdf

http://dnr.wi.gov/files/PDF/forms/3400/3400-053.pdf

"Land application of septage is currently the most commonly used disposal method in the U.S. It is relatively simple and cost-effective, uses low energy, and recycles organic material and nutrients to the land.

With proper management, domestic septage is a resource containing nutrients that can condition the soil and decrease the reliance on chemical fertilizers for agriculture. Septage management maximizes these benefits of septage while protecting public health and the environment.

Land application includes spreading septage from septage hauler trucks, specially designed land application vehicles, or tank wagons onto sites using spray irrigation, ridge and furrow irrigation, and overland flow." US EPA

[Murphsmom]

That's the difference between intelligence and stupidity. There is a limit to intelligence.

[Bumpyroad]

sdianel wrote:
Illegal in many states. In some states even gray water has to be properly disposed of.

i'd like to see a list of states where it is legal to dump human waste on farm fields.
bumpy

[sdianel_-acct_c]

Illegal in many states. In some states even gray water has to be properly disposed of.

[Bumpyroad]

Sprink-Fitter wrote:

Bumpyroad wrote:
every time I see a tanker spraying the fields with "stuff", I wonder if that really is all from a pig/cow lot or otherwise.
bumpy

Septic companies spray the fields with there loads also.

if it is legal for them to spray "human stuff" on the fields, a few gallons out of a black tank is a drop in the bucket, so to speak.
bumpy

[Passin__Through]

D & M wrote:
FB is a vast electronic wasteland.

One may think it vast, but truly its only half-vast.

[Sprink-Fitter]

Bumpyroad wrote:
every time I see a tanker spraying the fields with "stuff", I wonder if that really is all from a pig/cow lot or otherwise.
bumpy

Septic companies spray the fields with there loads also.