Ralph Cramden wrote:
toedtoes wrote:
This has been common for years regardless of the product. It does work. Many people go in and have no idea of what end is up. The salesman can get them into a new 32ft class A instead of the used 19th ft converted van.
Isn't that the truth........Most furniture stores are even worse.......I will not go into one. The wife must go to see what She wants, then I'll find it on the net.
The people who have no idea are who they use the nuclear option on which is the 120 month financing. My next door neighbor just bit on that one with a low end TT. He paid MSRP on something that can be had for $16K all day long, bought into everything the finance guy pushed in front of him from service contracts to discount books, and walked out the door 30K+ in upside down debt. He thinks he negotiated a great deal however.
The only thing worse than the sales staff at most RV dealers is the dealer who keeps all the new rigs locked, or in some fenced in area you can not get to without running the gauntlet.
The high pressure tactics do have their bright side and that is all the fun that can be had jacking the salespeople around at an RV show. That's my favorite winter pastime, and why my wife now refuses to go to one with me. I played a guy along last year in Pittsburgh for over half an hour with a Thor Motor Coach, before telling him I was not really interested as I had my heart set on a Prevost, and asked if he could point me to where they were at in the Expo center. I think I almost made him cry.
I guess that's why I've bought both my RV and all my furniture from local stores that have been in business for 2+ generations, come in as an informed consumer looking for a little bit of specific knowledge and they'll be there to supply it without the high pressure sales tactics. I did look at one unit up in the Niagara Falls area where they were laid out like you said, fenced in area where you have to go through a salesmen to look at anything, first question they ask is how much you can afford, lol. I told them I could get financing on anything on their lot but that I was looking at two specific units that they listed as having on their lot. Turns out one was at another location even though the listing specifically said it was at the one I had gone to and the other turned out to be a dud (board for the convertible dinette was cut so short that as soon as my son laid on it in bed form it collapsed). I was very glad that we had been in the area for other reasons because if I had gone up there just to look at the TT I would have been royally pissed at the experience.