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Homeless people coming to your favorite campground!

_1Flyboy
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.... Currently at New Melones Resevoir ( Tuolumne County, CA ) and about 1/2 of the weekday campers are either at the lower end of the economic scale or not even on it. Ancient RV, no tent but living out of vehicle, pit bulls, unkempt & disheveled appearance, noise complaints, etc.... So far this has yet to affect us, but, it may in the future...
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2oldman
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Explorer II
MNRon wrote:
People that โ€œlove to piss others offโ€ are hurting our country regardless of where they are on the socioeconomic ladder.
x2, even from the very top.
"If I'm wearing long pants, I'm too far north" - 2oldman

MNRon
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Explorer
Moderators - unfortunately might be time to shut this one down. There are jerks across the spectrum in America, just like there are good, kind people across the spectrum. I would love our country to be kinder and more empathetic, but donโ€™t think we should tolerate intolerance. People that โ€œlove to piss others offโ€ are hurting our country regardless of where they are on the socioeconomic ladder.
Ron & Pat
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2oldman
Explorer II
Explorer II
CavemanCharlie wrote:
a)I would love to camp next to you just to piss you off.

b) I don't want to camp next to someone with a RV that cost more then(sic) most houses, who has one of those annoying little ankle biter dogs, and is playing load opera music all night long. People like that are jerks.
a) well, that seems to be in vogue now.
b) I have never, ever heard someone playing opera music all night long, but I've heard enough '50s country music to make me gag. Jerks are everywhere.

Some of you people act as if you don't like the neighbors you must stay there and take it.
"If I'm wearing long pants, I'm too far north" - 2oldman

CavemanCharlie
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Explorer III
I didn't read all 4 pages of this thread.

I have a 27 year old Travel Trailer. I don't have a pit bull right now but, I've had one in the past and it was a great dog. I suppose you could call me unkempt and disheveled. I would love to camp next to you just to piss you off.

On second though, I don't want to camp next to someone with a RV that cost more then most houses, who has one of those annoying little ankle biter dogs, and is playing load opera music all night long. People like that are jerks.

RGar974417
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Explorer
I'm sure many of us have seen this at one time or another. A number of years ago, a family group was staying at a state park we were at.Their campsite was pretty run down having one tent,one pickup truck and several tarps. I know the ranger stopped by daily to talk to them. They never caused any issues except putting old tires in the dumpster. But the homeless problem is real. Much of it caused by government.Many of the homeless are mentally ill who have no where to go since they closed down many mental hospitals in our state. And I recently read California has half of the homeless in the country. I don't know if that's because of the warm weather or better government welfare or both. But it's a real problem that isn't being addressed properly.Wouldn't it be great if the government took old military bases and allowed the homeless to live their where they could be given help with healthcare and informed of job opportunities?

ksg5000
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If they pay for a campsite and don't bother anybody then it none of my business.
Kevin

buta4
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Explorer
Chum lee wrote:
Keeping homeless people out of a campground is nothing a $50 a night, or a $250 a week, or a $750 a month campground fee wont resolve. If you prefer BLM campgrounds (free for 14 days) or other uncontrolled camping, expect it. All you can do is move elsewhere if/when the campground becomes distasteful to you for any reason.

Chum lee


They're not homeless, they're "houseless". Their rv's/tents are their "homes".
Just another way to look at it I guess.
Ray

2oldman
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Explorer II
Dutch_12078 wrote:
The 14 day or less stay limit for most may have something to do with that.
It certainly does.
"If I'm wearing long pants, I'm too far north" - 2oldman

TomG2
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Explorer
My "home" is a 6" X 12" post office box somewhere and I proudly say that I am "Jobless and homeless" these days. Cheap parking should not be limited to those with $100k motorhomes but should not be trashed by people under a tarp either. The key word is trashed, no matter the size of the rig.

Deb_and_Ed_M
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Explorer II
#1Flyboy wrote:
As I said in opening post it has not affected us yet, as we are also homeless... And we donโ€™t do resort or upscale, but, prefer Boondocking or Government sites..Yes homeless as we are FT in a TC, and , we are also camphosts. And agree we all need a place to stay, but, I think the outcome is that a lot of folks are gonna have a more difficult time finding a campsite.


I understood that warning; and I really don't have a solution. People need to live *somewhere*; and for an increasing number, that's going to be campsites. As we drove to Alaska, we encountered RV parks that were filled to the brim with oil field workers, because the local towns simply didn't have the capacity. And yes, we too spent a week in Florida in a park that had quite a large rustic area that seemed to house people in tents who appeared to be living there permanently. A school bus picked up the kids; and a group of men sat near the road, I'm assuming they were getting picked up for "day work".

Pondering all that just made me grateful that when I'm in an RV park, it's for "fun" - not my last grasp at retaining a "home".
Ed, Deb, and 2 dogs
Looking for a small Class C!

naturist
Nomad
Nomad
Couple years ago at the Forest Service campground where I was hosting, a homeless family set up camp. Ma, pa, half dozen kids between 6 and 12. They were clearly struggling financially, as they came up with the site fee one day at a time. The kids were respectful and well behaved, but still just kids, you know. It was clear their meals were pulled together from whatever they could scrounge up, and the kids were often hungry and while they never went around begging, every once in a while I see one of those kids standing downwind of somebodyโ€™s barbie salivating.

One of the older kids and I got to talking and I learned dad was working but they had lost their home a couple months back, and the kids were promised theyโ€™d have a new one before winter. And that dinner the night before had consisted of some potatoes pulled out of a dumpster behind a grocery.

A couple days later my wife came up to camp with a bag full of surplus snow peas from our garden and I took them over to the homeless family. Dad accepted my gift with a thank you, but had never seen snow peas and asked what one did with them. I said the whole pea and pod were edible, and while you could boil them for a couple minutes, I rather liked them raw. I showed him how you snap off the stem and flower ends, and be careful to never eat one with any signs of decay because of botulism, and stuck one in my mouth to eat it.

He had eyed me suspiciously but very tentatively took one and put it in his mouth, no doubt concerned I was offering dumpster leavings instead of food fresher than money can buy. As his taste buds kicked in, his eyes lit up, thanking me he tuned to the kids who had clustered around and began sharing and repeating my instructions to ditch any that werenโ€™t perfect and snap off the very ends. The kids devoured those snow peas in minutes like little sharks on fresh kill.

At the end of their 14 days, they dutifully moved. Nice people but down on their luck just trying to get by.

Scottiemom
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Nomad
In a Florida park we regularly frequent, they had a problem with homeless. The park's rules were loosely written. Eventually there was a murder and another death, so the county (county park) rewrote the rules for all their parks. They still allow 180 days in the winter months, but only for RV's. If you have a tent, it's 14 days. Also, you MUST have a tent. No more tarps thrown over picnic tables, etc. They put pads on all the sites so you MUST park/setup on the pad. You cannot bring all your worldly goods and lay them on the ground covered by a tarp. They are enforcing the number of people per site, which is reasonable. Noise rules which were always in effect are now enforced as well as pet policies. It's a much better place to camp now. Anyone can camp, however, all must obey the rules.

Dale
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wa8yxm
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Explorer III
MNRon wrote:
Sorry, not trying to turn this political with my last post...but...trying to get each of us to look at ourselves in the mirror and try to help advocate for improvement for this segment of our population instead of just trying to push them into a corner we donโ€™t have to see...


Without further comment...... On this we agree.

Someone up-thread mentioned a school bus pulling a trailer full of "Junk" or as it turned out "Junque" (that's junk with class) since he needed some of it.

In my case it was a Class C with a long haired type driving. Turns out he and his lady were very nice people... The site they parked on did not have a fire ring and the park was out but I had a spare I got some time back I'd never used (I used to make campfires for my wife.. Myself the cost/benefit ratio is a tad high but she liked 'em) so I had the spare ring for when it was needed. but it's never going to be needed. So it's theirs.

Many looked at 'em and ran.. What can I tell you.. Make friends. not war?
Home was where I park it. but alas the.
2005 Damon Intruder 377 Alas declared a total loss
after a semi "nicked" it. Still have the radios
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2112
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Explorer II
I will quote a comment you posted on a generator thread earlier today
#1Flyboy wrote:
.... IF you buy a Honda you will pay more, but you will get more. Service, reliability, resale value and a proven generator. If you get a Communist China knockoff you will pay less but also get less and it might , maybe, produce the stated power output....

The same principle applies.

This reminds me of people who take a cheap, budget cruise and then complain about the type of people on the ship.
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Boon_Docker
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Reisender wrote:
MNRon wrote:
While I understand and ~agree with the sentiment of this string...

Last week at a AZ regional park a school bus pulled in next to us. He also had an old Suburban and a trailer full of what looked like junk. My initial reaction was similar to this thread.

One day I was changing a tire on my ebike which cost more than most of what my neighbor seemed to own. Out of nowhere โ€˜Kennyโ€™ approached me, along with some โ€œno flatโ€ solution he had left over and a couple of tools to loan me along with some advice.

Kenny looked โ€œdown and outโ€ as you might expect. But he was a caring human being who made me recognize myself and turned my indignation into shame.

We are all Godโ€™s children, many of us more fortunate than others (and more fortunate than we really deserve if we admit it). I do my best (imperfectly) to view others with compassion instead of thinking Iโ€™m better than they are...


Great post. Thank you.


Yes, Great Post.
There is just not enough compassion shown in this world these days.