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myredracer
Oct 13, 2015Explorer II
At first I thought the thread was going to be about how much weight you gain from eating too much food on a weekend camping trip... :S
When I got our new TT, I weighed it at a scale right after I picked it up from the dealer. After allowing for 2 propane tanks and battery added by the dealer, it was 190 lbs heavier than the UVW sticker says that it should be when it left the factory. I suspect the discrepancy is due to the options we ordered like solid surface countertop and electric awning for ex. but just don't know.
I weighed each and every mod & upgrade I did, and that came to 119 lbs. That included the weight of the WDH snap-up brackets and Reese DC arms, Dexter equalizers & wet bolts, shock absorbers, water filtration & regulator, built-in vaccuum, 2nd TV and a few other things.
Then I went to a scale again and weighed our TT all fully loaded up for camping for two including food. That added another 555 lbs.
The grand total of the additional weight on top of the factory dry weight is only 864 lbs. Some people say that additional weight is typically at least another 1500 lbs, but I do not know where they get that number from and is way off from what I found. Urban myth I would say.
The thing that does not make sense is that the factory lists the NCC as 1563 lbs, yet when I did the final scale weighing, we were about 200 lbs under the GVWR. A full tank of fresh water would put us over the GVWR. Or if we loaded up for a long trip somewhere, same thing. The factory NCC is way off what it actually is. Factory listed weights are smoke and mirrors and are pretty much meaningless and are cooked up to make a particular camper look more towable. They're also inconsistent between manufacturers due to lack of industry standards. Dry weight vs actual is like the RV industries dirty little secret and they all play the game.
We also got screwed by the factory dry tongue weight of 518 lbs. We ordered a WDH with 800 lb rated spring bars thinking that would be plenty. However, the trip to the scale showed that the actual tongue wt. (fully loaded for camping) was nearly 1,000 lbs. Could not get the 800 lb bars to work properly and ended up ordering 1200 lb bars which made a huge difference. Makes me wonder how many owners are towing with under-sized spring bars.
When I got our new TT, I weighed it at a scale right after I picked it up from the dealer. After allowing for 2 propane tanks and battery added by the dealer, it was 190 lbs heavier than the UVW sticker says that it should be when it left the factory. I suspect the discrepancy is due to the options we ordered like solid surface countertop and electric awning for ex. but just don't know.
I weighed each and every mod & upgrade I did, and that came to 119 lbs. That included the weight of the WDH snap-up brackets and Reese DC arms, Dexter equalizers & wet bolts, shock absorbers, water filtration & regulator, built-in vaccuum, 2nd TV and a few other things.
Then I went to a scale again and weighed our TT all fully loaded up for camping for two including food. That added another 555 lbs.
The grand total of the additional weight on top of the factory dry weight is only 864 lbs. Some people say that additional weight is typically at least another 1500 lbs, but I do not know where they get that number from and is way off from what I found. Urban myth I would say.
The thing that does not make sense is that the factory lists the NCC as 1563 lbs, yet when I did the final scale weighing, we were about 200 lbs under the GVWR. A full tank of fresh water would put us over the GVWR. Or if we loaded up for a long trip somewhere, same thing. The factory NCC is way off what it actually is. Factory listed weights are smoke and mirrors and are pretty much meaningless and are cooked up to make a particular camper look more towable. They're also inconsistent between manufacturers due to lack of industry standards. Dry weight vs actual is like the RV industries dirty little secret and they all play the game.
We also got screwed by the factory dry tongue weight of 518 lbs. We ordered a WDH with 800 lb rated spring bars thinking that would be plenty. However, the trip to the scale showed that the actual tongue wt. (fully loaded for camping) was nearly 1,000 lbs. Could not get the 800 lb bars to work properly and ended up ordering 1200 lb bars which made a huge difference. Makes me wonder how many owners are towing with under-sized spring bars.
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