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just wondering... tire shreads

cdlaine
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So, as I gather from reading the variety of posts on the forum...

tire blows, tire shreads, $100's - 1000's dollars in damage...

any ideas how to prevent said calamity ? (other then tire pressure,

tire age, weight loads, all the frequently stated preventions.

, etc. ) I'm interested in after the blow-out. Is there some type

of re-inforcement that the industry could utilize ... my brother

had $ 2500 in damage to his TT siding from what would seem a

"routine blow out". Obviously an ounce of prevention...I know...

what about shielding ? Forgot to mention ...I'm aware of the "that's

why you carry insurance commentary".


Anything on the market ?


Charles
2003 2500HD, 8.1L,CC,4.10,2WD,Allison
Standard bed
Ride-rite air bags
Prodigy
Husky 16K sliding

2013 Artic Fox 29-5T Silver Fox Ed.
Pin wt.(CAT Scale) 2660#
5th (Cat Scale) 12600#

I'll want the Frim Fram sauce with the Ausen Fey with
Chafafa on the side.... Nat
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Me_Again
Explorer II
Explorer II
FastEagle wrote:


The Silver Fox Editions are like the Big Sky is to Montana. They are optional packages. If anything they, will add weight.

FE


Some time in 2013 there was a major upgrade in the frame/axles/capacities etc. With 6K axles this is one of the early models.

From OP sig line!
2013 Artic Fox 29-5T Silver Fox Ed.
Pin wt.(CAT Scale) 2660#
5th (Cat Scale) 12600#

If the 12600 is axle weight and it has 6K Al-Ko axles as he states, then he needs Arctic Fox to upgrade the axles. If 12600 is his gross weight then LT235/85R16E's will give him very good service if he chooses one of the steel ply carcass offerings.

Chris
2021 F150 2.7 Ecoboost - Summer Home 2017 Bighorn 3575el. Can Am Spyder RT-L Chrome, Kawasaki KRX1000. Retired and enjoying it! RIP DW 07-05-2021

FastEagle
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Me Again wrote:
FastEagle wrote:
Me Again wrote:
cdlaine wrote:
F.E. ,

Unfortunately, 6000 # Al-Ko's.

Charles




FE




FE

Me_Again
Explorer II
Explorer II
FastEagle wrote:
Me Again wrote:
cdlaine wrote:
F.E. ,

Unfortunately, 6000 # Al-Ko's.

Charles


So I repeat, install Michelin XPS RIBs or Bridgestone Duravis R250s and go camping! Check back with us in 6 or 8 years. Chris


I went back and posted the correct specs. Take a look at them. With those figures you subtract the hitch weight from the GVWR to get total GAWR then divide by 2.

FE


You need to find the specs for the light weight Silver Fox Editions. I believe this trailer has a GVWR of less than 14K. Which explains the 6K axles! May be 13945 GVWR, hard to find. Chris
2021 F150 2.7 Ecoboost - Summer Home 2017 Bighorn 3575el. Can Am Spyder RT-L Chrome, Kawasaki KRX1000. Retired and enjoying it! RIP DW 07-05-2021

FastEagle
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Me Again wrote:
cdlaine wrote:
F.E. ,

Unfortunately, 6000 # Al-Ko's.

Charles


So I repeat, install Michelin XPS RIBs or Bridgestone Duravis R250s and go camping! Check back with us in 6 or 8 years. Chris




FE

Me_Again
Explorer II
Explorer II
cdlaine wrote:
F.E. ,

Unfortunately, 6000 # Al-Ko's.

Charles


So I repeat, install Michelin XPS RIBs or Bridgestone Duravis R250s and go camping! Check back with us in 6 or 8 years. Chris
2021 F150 2.7 Ecoboost - Summer Home 2017 Bighorn 3575el. Can Am Spyder RT-L Chrome, Kawasaki KRX1000. Retired and enjoying it! RIP DW 07-05-2021

FastEagle
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Explorer
cdlaine wrote:
F.E. ,

Unfortunately, 6000 # Al-Ko's.

Charles

cdlaine
Explorer
Explorer
F.E. ,

Unfortunately, 6000 # Al-Ko's.

Charles
2003 2500HD, 8.1L,CC,4.10,2WD,Allison
Standard bed
Ride-rite air bags
Prodigy
Husky 16K sliding

2013 Artic Fox 29-5T Silver Fox Ed.
Pin wt.(CAT Scale) 2660#
5th (Cat Scale) 12600#

I'll want the Frim Fram sauce with the Ausen Fey with
Chafafa on the side.... Nat

FastEagle
Explorer
Explorer
Me Again wrote:



Your solution is easy. Install Michelin XPS Ribs or Bridgestone Duravis R250s and go camping and do not worry about it again until sometime around 6-8 years of use.

Chris


FastEagle

FastEagle
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Explorer
cdlaine wrote:


I like the idea of beefing up the wheel wells and surrounds
with under armour.... wonder why the industry hasn't adopted
same ???


Charles


WEIGHT!

FastEagle

Jarlaxle
Explorer II
Explorer II
Me Again wrote:
cdlaine wrote:
So, as I gather from reading the variety of posts on the forum...

tire blows, tire shreads, $100's - 1000's dollars in damage...

any ideas how to prevent said calamity ? (other then tire pressure,

tire age, weight loads, all the frequently stated preventions.

, etc. ) I'm interested in after the blow-out. Is there some type

of re-inforcement that the industry could utilize ... my brother

had $ 2500 in damage to his TT siding from what would seem a

"routine blow out". Obviously an ounce of prevention...I know...

what about shielding ? Forgot to mention ...I'm aware of the "that's

why you carry insurance commentary".


Anything on the market ?


Charles


Your solution is easy. Install Michelin XPS Ribs or Bridgestone Duravis R250s and go camping and do not worry about it again until sometime around 6-8 years of use.

Chris


Not an option for the vast majority of trailers...unless you know where I can get an XPS in a 185/80R13D, or a 225/75R15E?
John and Elizabeth (Liz), with Briza the size XL tabby
St. Bernard Marm, cats Vierna and Maya...RIP. ๐Ÿ˜ž
Current rig:
1992 International Genesis school bus conversion

Jarlaxle
Explorer II
Explorer II
pasusan wrote:
We also went with a TPMS. It won't prevent a blowout, but it will tell you when you have one so you can slow down and pull off before the tire shreds up your RV. We had a blowout before and another one after. Of course, once we got good tires we haven't had a problem, but our TPMS is always on alert.


I lost a tire on my car trailer a while back...took off the mud flap, would have ripped apart a TT. TPMS would not have done ANYTHING, because the tire did not deflate! It peeled the tread...but still held 65psi!

On my bus, the rear wheel wells are reinforced with 1/4" steel plate.
John and Elizabeth (Liz), with Briza the size XL tabby
St. Bernard Marm, cats Vierna and Maya...RIP. ๐Ÿ˜ž
Current rig:
1992 International Genesis school bus conversion

LostinAZ
Explorer
Explorer
camperforlife wrote:
What I find disturbing is the number of manufacturers that run wiring, gas lines, low point drains in the wheel wells. It is no wonder that there is so much damage done with a blow out. Some common sense when they design these things would help.


Rv manufacturers don't give a damn about their customers. All they care about is building the RV at the lowest possible cost so they can maximize their profit. They then pass the build quality problems on to the dealer and pay a small portion of the real warranty costs.

stripit
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Explorer
With the small business I had weighing rv's for over 8 years. I saw many trailers torn to heck with the after effect of a failed tire. I've seen where the floor above the tire was blown out and the refrigerator fell through. When a tire blows out, it is like a 1/4 stick of dynamite going off. The wheel well fender, or side panel can easily be destroyed, but trying to save the area directly above the tire can be easily rectified by the installation of a metal panel. When the heating & a/c guys cut and bent the metal for me they had various thicknesses available and I took the thickest. It is not so heavy to change anything but I made it long, so no matter how big a piece of tire tread should ever be thrown off it cannot catch the edge of the metal panel I installed. There is no real strength in the flooring material above the tires. I agree that starting out with a quality tire can minimize the chances of a serious tire failure, but not totally remove all chances. Being proactive is always a good thing. This is minimal cost and not a lot of work.
Stacey Frank
2016 Tiffin Allegro Bus 40AP
2019 Tesla Model X
2015 Cadillac SRX we Tow
1991 Avanti Convertible

camperforlife
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Explorer
What I find disturbing is the number of manufacturers that run wiring, gas lines, low point drains in the wheel wells. It is no wonder that there is so much damage done with a blow out. Some common sense when they design these things would help.