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Grit dog wrote:toedtoes wrote:
Most law enforcement, etc, no [img][/img]longer use the word "accident". Instead they use "crash". Because in 95 percent or more of incidents it was not an accident.
I am always amazed at how some people drive.
Because you're around alot of LEO's and "crashes?" Lol
Maybe in your infinite toes, you can tell us exactly what the differentiator is between an "accident" and a "crash." If any traffic law was broken, is it not an accident? If it was caused by someone else, is it not an accident because you can't be sure they didn't do it on purpose?
Nevermind, no one actually cares....
But we should start a thread about all the people who drive too slow, too. They cause accidents, I mean crashes, sometimes too.
โOct-07-2021 02:37 PM
wa8yxm wrote:
I figure they are in a hurry to get where they are going.
Me. I'm in no hurry
What do I know that they don't know
Well I'm going to my funeral.. and I plan to take a long time to get there.
They are going to their funerals too... in the devil's own hurry.
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Desert Captain wrote:
Highway 87 aka the Beeline Highway runs north from Mesa {just east of Phoenix} north 75 miles to and through Payson continuing on to provide a good route for the RV crowd to the I-40 corridor {Flagstaff, Winslow and Holbrook}. From Mesa it is good 4 lane {with wide paved shoulders} of mostly divided highway. It does however have a lot of steep climbs {6 to 7 percent} as it winds up through the mountains.
โOct-07-2021 02:41 AM
toedtoes wrote:Grit dog wrote:toedtoes wrote:
Most law enforcement, etc, no longer use the word "accident". Instead they use "crash". Because in 95 percent or more of incidents it was not an accident.
I am always amazed at how some people drive.
Because you're around alot of LEO's and "crashes?" Lol
Maybe in your infinite toes, you can tell us exactly what the differentiator is between an "accident" and a "crash." If any traffic law was broken, is it not an accident? If it was caused by someone else, is it not an accident because you can't be sure they didn't do it on purpose?
Nevermind, no one actually cares....
But we should start a thread about all the people who drive too slow, too. They cause accidents, I mean crashes, sometimes too.
Why are you taking such offense at my comments. Geez.
And yes, I worked most of my career with law enforcement.
They stopped using the word "accident" because it implied there was no fault - and in most cases someone was at fault.
NHTSA started it and law enforcement and others have followed it.
https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/newsroom/crash-not-accident
So get off your high horse and grow up.
โOct-06-2021 07:47 PM
โOct-06-2021 06:34 PM
DrewE wrote:Grit dog wrote:toedtoes wrote:
Most law enforcement, etc, no longer use the word "accident". Instead they use "crash". Because in 95 percent or more of incidents it was not an accident.
If any traffic law was broken, is it not an accident? If it was caused by someone else, is it not an accident because you can't be sure they didn't do it on purpose?
In some legal contexts, "accident" has the implication that nobody is at fault or bears legal responsibility. If a bolt of lightning struck a vehicle and destroyed it, that would presumably be considered an accident; but if someone ran a red light and destroyed the vehicle, that would not be an accident in such contexts.
In general everyday use, however, the word accident doesn't carry this additional connotation; it merely means something that was not done intentionally. Indeed, it seems to me that there's most often a bit of an implication that an accident could have been avoided with care or foresight. A toddler peeing his or her pants has an accident. Bob Ross putting a brush stroke in not quite the right place has a happy little accident. A speeding car careening off the road is in an accident, assuming the driver wasn't actually setting out to commit suicide or attempt a dangerous bit of stunt driving.
I personally don't very much appreciate people attempting to redefine the common, everyday meaning of words to match technical legal definitions. I'll continue to call entirely preventable but unintended misfortunes accidents.
โOct-06-2021 06:28 PM
Grit dog wrote:toedtoes wrote:
Most law enforcement, etc, no longer use the word "accident". Instead they use "crash". Because in 95 percent or more of incidents it was not an accident.
I am always amazed at how some people drive.
Because you're around alot of LEO's and "crashes?" Lol
Maybe in your infinite toes, you can tell us exactly what the differentiator is between an "accident" and a "crash." If any traffic law was broken, is it not an accident? If it was caused by someone else, is it not an accident because you can't be sure they didn't do it on purpose?
Nevermind, no one actually cares....
But we should start a thread about all the people who drive too slow, too. They cause accidents, I mean crashes, sometimes too.
โOct-06-2021 05:02 PM
Grit dog wrote:toedtoes wrote:
Most law enforcement, etc, no longer use the word "accident". Instead they use "crash". Because in 95 percent or more of incidents it was not an accident.
If any traffic law was broken, is it not an accident? If it was caused by someone else, is it not an accident because you can't be sure they didn't do it on purpose?
โOct-06-2021 03:14 PM