Oregon to charge 25% more for out of state RV campers

[NamMedevac_70]

Starting next year. Although fun don't shoot the messenger for this PSA.

https://katu.com/news/local/oregon-to-charge-out-of-state-rv-campers-25-more

I have done a lot of fishing and RV plus truck camping in Oregon on my veterans discount and plan to do more next year.

[wapiticountry]

Super_Dave wrote:
Greed abounds. The campground that we stay at on a monthly basis (at a discounted rate) is dropping their monthly sites because they can make more money on nightlies and a full campground.

Unlike that dirty rotten greedy park owner, I am sure you have passed on every chance you have had to increase your income.
In retrospect that appears to be a bad decision on your part. Because if you had taken those opportunities to increase your income you could likely afford to pay that nightly rate and still stay for a month.

[Super_Dave]

Greed abounds. The campground that we stay at on a monthly basis (at a discounted rate) is dropping their monthly sites because they can make more money on nightlies and a full campground.

[wapiticountry]

rhagfo wrote:

wapiticountry wrote:
Considering residents pay income and property taxes to Oregon that fund things like parks and out of state campers do not, it seems only fair that residents should get a break.

Well Oregon state parks are not tax payer supported, the funding is from three major sources, user fees, a share of lottery dollars, and a percentage of RV registration fees.

Even so, I doubt much of the revenue from Lottery sales and RV registrations come from out of state visitors. Oregon residents still provide the vast majority of the funding for the Parks.

[Tvov]

I am a bit surprised as many others that Oregon has NOT been charging more for non-residents all this time. I just assume that when I go to another state's parks that I will pay more.

I have no problem with that. As a state resident, all those fees and taxes I pay in my state in addition to a "gate fee" helps to pay for all the state's parks and facilities.

Speaking of fishing license cost - hunting license fee differences can be breathtaking. In Connecticut ("base" fee, there are a lot of add-ons available), a resident deer hunting license is $19. Non-resident fee is $91.

I hunted for years in Vermont, usually only a couple weekends, and I paid the non-resident fees.

It has always been that way, the differences between resident and non-resident fees for mostly everything.

At least up here in the New England area.

[rhagfo]

ksg5000 wrote:
I am from Oregon and have always had to pay an out of state fee when I camp in adjacent Washington. Our campgrounds are maxed out - it's hard to get a spot these days. I would have preferred them giving Oregon residence a discount but that would ask Politicians to cut revenue - something that will never happen. In short - I don't mind they charge a reasonable fee to out of state campers.

Well we have been hosting for Oregon State parks for going on eight years. We have hosted coastal parks for about four years of that. It has constantly been getting busier winter on the coast the parks were sometimes near empty, usually due to weather (storms) to 3/4 full . The two parks nearest Newport, South Beach, and Beverly Beach would be fully open all loops except tent loops, and full for the February Newport Seafood and wine festival.
The last couple summers the coastal campgrounds the FULL sign goes up mid May and stays up until the end of September.
A newer park west of Portland was seldom full except of weekends until the last couple years it very full all summer long.
The park system took a funding hit during the pandemic with three months of closure, loss of lottery income, and moratorium of vehicle registration renewals.

[rhagfo]

wapiticountry wrote:
Considering residents pay income and property taxes to Oregon that fund things like parks and out of state campers do not, it seems only fair that residents should get a break.

Well Oregon state parks are not tax payer supported, the funding is from three major sources, user fees, a share of lottery dollars, and a percentage of RV registration fees.

[cptqueeg]

OSP are primarily funded by user fees and a small % of lottery revenue and there is no sales tax in OR. Users need to pay up to maintain and/or expand the system. It's ALWAYS easier to raise fees and taxes on non-residents, ie non-voters.

Just like ID Dept Fish and Game, which does not get funding from the ID state general tax revenue which forces the IDFG to raise fees ($75 non-res tag for 1 sage grouse this year!!!!) and offer way more tags (deer) than the population can support to generate revenue to fund their operation. Last year the non-res elk tag which was ~$450 is right around $750 for 2021.

[wapiticountry]

monkey44 wrote:
NO one seems to take into consideration travelers buy local fuel, groceries, and pay fees for attractions and entertainment, including state taxes.

Maybe every state should charge the same for all campers, then every state would probably get more traveling campers for longer stays, AND generate more state revenue overall. We cannot ONLY compare state park fees to arrive at all state revenues generated from out-of-state campers.

I suspect the number of RV travelers that base there destination decisions on how much the state parks charge is extremely close zero. The parks are apparently full, so the local businesses are going to do just fine. Fact is a dollar from an Oregon resident is exactly as valuable as a dollar from a Kentucky resident as far as any merchant is concerned.

[pasusan]

I don't know... NY state parks have always charged extra for us out-of-staters. And we still camp in many of them every year. Doesn't deter us in the least.

[monkey44]

NO one seems to take into consideration travelers buy local fuel, groceries, and pay fees for attractions and entertainment, including state taxes.

Maybe every state should charge the same for all campers, then every state would probably get more traveling campers for longer stays, AND generate more state revenue overall. We cannot ONLY compare state park fees to arrive at all state revenues generated from out-of-state campers.

[Timmo_]

Bumpyroad wrote:
gee, the next thing will be that I am charged more for an out of state fishing license.
bumpy

Most states do, like the post above this one, can you name a state that DOES NOT charge more for nonresidents.

[memtb]

Cummins12V98 wrote:

fla-gypsy wrote:
Considering the current state of affairs in Oregon I will not be visiting

GOOD CALL!!!!!!!

+1 ! Perhaps it is to help finance the “Rebuild Portland” initiative! 😉 memtb

[cummins2014]

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Bumpyroad wrote:
gee, the next thing will be that I am charged more for an out of state fishing license.
bumpy

Come to Washington state and you WILL be. Plain STUPID.

Any out of state I fish ,I pay more then a resident. What states charge the same for Non-residents ,I'm going there to fish.:)

[larry_cad]

ROBERTSUNRUS wrote:
🙂 Hi, we go where we want to go and pay the price. I don't like California and Canada gas prices either, but that's not going to stop me from going there. Instead of letting the 25% charge get to you, just skip your Starbucks. :B

:B

[ktmrfs]

goducks10 wrote:

Lwiddis wrote:
Would Oregon campers be unhappy at paying extra for out of state camping?

They have to in ID.IDAHO,

USA — Idaho State Parks will double the price for out-of-state campers and visitors starting Thursday, June 10 to comply with a new state law.

House Bill 93 specifies an increase in fees for some of the state's busiest parks, including Bear Lake, Farragut, Hells Gate, Priest Lake and Round Lake. The new price for non-residents to enter the parks jumps to $14. For out of state campers, a basic campsite at those parks will cost $48 a night.

And WASHINGTON and MONTANA. and likely quite a few other states. Not sure what all the fuss is about, many states charge more for out of state residents for state park campgrounds. Hasn't stopped us from camping in any of those state parks.

We find places we want to go and don't worry about campground fees.