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Read the park rules folks !

Guy_Roan
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We are on the beach at Long Key state Park and yesterday a new rig pulled in beside us.
As they were setting up they let their dog run loose.
It ran around the beach, and then ran into the water.
Then the lady joined it, playing in the water.

The rules that are given out to everyone specifically state No dogs allowed on the beach or in the water.

Another rule states all dogs must be on a leash no longer then 6 feet.

Read the rules folks !

Guy
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Hornnumb2
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I never had a open can of adult beverage either....

Sprink-Fitter
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Tom_Diane wrote:
Guy Roan wrote:
We are on the beach at Long Key state Park and yesterday a new rig pulled in beside us.
As they were setting up they let their dog run loose.
It ran around the beach, and then ran into the water.
Then the lady joined it, playing in the water.

The rules that are given out to everyone specifically state No dogs allowed on the beach or in the water.

Another rule states all dogs must be on a leash no longer then 6 feet.

Read the rules folks !v We hosted at a small county park for 3 years! the rules were as stated by the original poster but also had speed limit signs as well as the rule of no off road vehicles.
I had one guy tellme that the speed limit signs were inadequate! the fact is that the county park roads fell under the same scope as county roads throughout the county and the signs were posted accordingly as required for size shape and color! More than one violater swore that there was no rule or sign forbidding ATV's, it was on the registration envelope as well at the registration booth! That with all the other violators would tell me we need a big FRICKEN sign posted! To the op subject. Most who let they're dogs off leash with the 6 ft limit would claim that their dog would never bite anyone and so the rule did not apply to their dog! Famous last words of a fool! OH! And that wa another of the rules that we needed a big fricken sign for! To accomadate all those big fricken signs would have meant the park be all giant bill boards for the rules! REALLY!!!
Guy


When did Guy add the rest if the above quote to his post, I think some of you are messing up with the quote button.
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coolbreeze01
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Just a heads up for visitors to the North Coast:

" Never turn your back on the ocean.

That's the pervasive message along the coasts of Northern California and parts of Oregon, and for good reason: On a seemingly perfect sunny day, when tame-looking waves are lapping the sand, the unwary beachgoer can be bowled over and pulled into the cold Pacific waters by an unexpectedly large wave surging up the beach.

Sneaker waves, as they are colloquially known, can strike seemingly without warning and have been responsible for numerous deaths in recent years.

"For much of the West Coast, sneaker waves kill more people than all other weather hazards combined," Troy Nicolini, a forecaster with the National Weather Service office in Eureka, Calif., said during a presentation on the threat at the annual meeting of the American Meteorological Society, held in Atlanta earlier this month."
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myredracer
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Our dog has been viciously attacked by an off-leash dog at our CG (membership RV park). He does not know how to defend himself but fortunately the owner was able to get his dog under control quickly enough. A co-worker of DW had his family jewels chomped by an off-leash dog and bad enough to have to get stitches. Cops attended but the Canadian owners high-tailed it back to Canada with the cops in pursuit. Both incidents in the same CG (our membership CG) in the same season and we think it may have been the same bulldog. This CG has dog rules but they refuse to enforce them, put signage up or remind people when they sign in. Our dog is now skittish at the CG when we walk him there.

We have no respect for anyone who isn't responsible enough to keep their dog on a leash. We won't hesitate to report it and won't hesitate to call the cops if needed. We carry bear spray with us (attached to leash). I'm almost tempted to carry a big stick sometimes. Could easily be a small child that gets attacked too.

noplace2
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crudeman wrote:




Great now the thread has took on Judge Judy theme. :B


It just gets better and better, doesn't it? :B
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crudeman
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rk911 wrote:
Lantley wrote:
rk911 wrote:
Lantley wrote:

This is where I disagree if the person with the off leash dog merely took the dog to the beach, I personally don't care.

but it's not your park. the owner's of the park apparently do care. when you open your own RV park then you can make the rules.

Lantley wrote:
As long as the dog was under control. Did not approach anyone and did not take a dump that was not cleaned up.
The fact that the dog was off leash and went to the beach did not offend or upset me. Why should it? Simply because it was against the rules?


it ain't about whether or not you were offended. I bet the park has other rules that, when broken, would offend you and not others. should those rules be enforced simply because others were not offended?


I'm sorry that you see the dog on the beach as a crisis or even and issue.
Other than the rule there was no harm done, no foul.
The whole episode does not upset me when I hear of it on the internet nor would it bother me if I witnessed it in person.
I don't own a campground. I'm there to relax and enjoy myself. I trust the owners have personnel there to enforce the rules so I don't have to.
If the dog is causing a problem I have no problem speaking up, but if the dog is just swimming at the beach I have no cause for concern.


not a crisis but flagrant violations are an issue. we had a name for folks like you when I was working...we called you 'defendants'. ๐Ÿ™‚




Great now the thread has took on Judge Judy theme. :B
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westernrvparkow
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coolbreeze01 wrote:
Just a couple cases for the un-informed.

(Reuters) - 11/26/2012 "A California mother and father and their 16-year-old son were swept out to sea over the weekend after a deadly chain of events set off when the teenager jumped into frigid waters to save the family dog from turbulent Pacific Ocean waves.

The dog escaped on his own from the water off the Northern California coast. But Howard Kuljian, 50, and Mary Scott, 54, of Eureka died while their 16-year-old son, Gregory Kuljian, remained lost at sea, said Deputy Ariel Gruenthal of the Humboldt County Coroner's office."

"A 59-year-old man and his wife rushed into the 20-foot surf at Pt. Reyes National Seashore after their dog was dragged in by a sneaker wave. Four hours later, the man's body was recovered. His wife and the dog were unharmed."
So do you ban dogs from the beach, people from the beach or waves from the beach? Accidents happen and people die. Sounds like the problem was the teenager and his parents, the dog is fine. If there was a leash law for teenagers, everyone would be alive today.
If you would like some links about feral cats decimating the bird population, a quick Google search would locate them for the "un-imformed".

noplace2
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C-Bears wrote:


Until then keep him away from strangers and either pick up his droppings or put a diaper on him.


Although I realize that some of your post was tongue in cheek, if you ever decide to open/buy that campground, please put me down as your first customer! And the disclaimer is that I love dogs. I can't stand many of their owners.
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Rollnhome
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I say let anarchy rule the RV parks and the lands of public domain.
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rk911
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Lantley wrote:
rk911 wrote:
Lantley wrote:

This is where I disagree if the person with the off leash dog merely took the dog to the beach, I personally don't care.

but it's not your park. the owner's of the park apparently do care. when you open your own RV park then you can make the rules.

Lantley wrote:
As long as the dog was under control. Did not approach anyone and did not take a dump that was not cleaned up.
The fact that the dog was off leash and went to the beach did not offend or upset me. Why should it? Simply because it was against the rules?


it ain't about whether or not you were offended. I bet the park has other rules that, when broken, would offend you and not others. should those rules be enforced simply because others were not offended?


I'm sorry that you see the dog on the beach as a crisis or even and issue.
Other than the rule there was no harm done, no foul.
The whole episode does not upset me when I hear of it on the internet nor would it bother me if I witnessed it in person.
I don't own a campground. I'm there to relax and enjoy myself. I trust the owners have personnel there to enforce the rules so I don't have to.
If the dog is causing a problem I have no problem speaking up, but if the dog is just swimming at the beach I have no cause for concern.


not a crisis but flagrant violations are an issue. we had a name for folks like you when I was working...we called you 'defendants'. ๐Ÿ™‚
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coolbreeze01
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Just a couple cases for the un-informed.

(Reuters) - 11/26/2012 "A California mother and father and their 16-year-old son were swept out to sea over the weekend after a deadly chain of events set off when the teenager jumped into frigid waters to save the family dog from turbulent Pacific Ocean waves.

The dog escaped on his own from the water off the Northern California coast. But Howard Kuljian, 50, and Mary Scott, 54, of Eureka died while their 16-year-old son, Gregory Kuljian, remained lost at sea, said Deputy Ariel Gruenthal of the Humboldt County Coroner's office."

"A 59-year-old man and his wife rushed into the 20-foot surf at Pt. Reyes National Seashore after their dog was dragged in by a sneaker wave. Four hours later, the man's body was recovered. His wife and the dog were unharmed."
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westernrvparkow
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coolbreeze01 wrote:
Sneaker waves grab dogs. Owner's jump in to save their dogs, and often drown. Sometimes multiple family members drown. Usually the dog ends up back on shore, non the worse for the experience, but now ownerless.
Park employee warns dog owner of danger, dog owner takes offense and an argument ensues. Eventually, the dog's owner pulls a gun and shoots the employee in the arm and takes him hostage. Swat team engages in hostage negotiations. Negotiations fail Swat team employs tear gas and Flash Bang grenades. Five sites away an elderly widow is startled by the noise and knocks over her goldfish bowl. Her cat immediately eats the goldfish. The widow has a heart attack and drops dead. Five days later the police do a welfare check on the widow and the cat escapes. The cat, now feral, must survive eating the local songbirds. As the songbird population declines, the rats and snakes that normally feed on the songbirds and their eggs die of starvation. Without the snakes and rats to eat, the few remaining wild California Condors die. Enforcing leash laws causes species extinction.
And yes, this makes just as much sense as saying a swimming dog causes entire families to drown.

v10superduty
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4X4Dodger wrote:


Why are we so concerned about everyone elses actions and business that have NO effect on us directly?



But sometimes it does have an effect on others.

Several years back I jumped out of truck in rainstorm, took several steps across grass of my site, popped into RV on the lite blue carpet, quickly noticed an odor and "stuff" tracked across camper.
I had no pet at time. But I did have a PO'd wife...

So someone who either didn't follow rules or "who they didn't matter/apply to" did greatly effect me directly.

Plus I found your post kinda contradictory?

--You suggest if it bothers someone if rules being broken to "just talk to them"
--You suggest to just keep our nose out of other folks business next paragraph..???
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coolbreeze01
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Sneaker waves grab dogs. Owner's jump in to save their dogs, and often drown. Sometimes multiple family members drown. Usually the dog ends up back on shore, non the worse for the experience, but now ownerless.
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